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Postby cypriotnado » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:Poor people have been through hell !


Yes, hell - they've been through Turkey.



Your totally pathetic! Why don't you post somthing useful like what you have been drinking tonight.....hic ?`

Or make up some quotes to pass your lonely hours away and to amuse us all :lol:

Have a bit of compassion for these poor people. They were robbed lets hope they catch the bastards and who cares if they are Greek or Turkish or whatever.


Are you sure they were robbed? I'm not convinced at all.



Well I am no fan of the daily mail thats more the frau's reading matter.

But heres another report : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gre ... 8c488664e6

I hope it will be investigated like any accusation. I guess I reserve judgement. I dont think it was the coastguard but more likely modern day pirates.
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Re: headline in the alleged news paper - the daily mail

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:03 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:Poor people have been through hell !


Yes, hell - they've been through Turkey.



Your totally pathetic! Why don't you post somthing useful like what you have been drinking tonight.....hic ?`

Or make up some quotes to pass your lonely hours away and to amuse us all :lol:

Have a bit of compassion for these poor people. They were robbed lets hope they catch the bastards and who cares if they are Greek or Turkish or whatever.


Are you sure they were robbed? I'm not convinced at all.



Well I am no fan of the daily mail thats more the frau's reading matter.

But heres another report : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gre ... 8c488664e6

I hope it will be investigated like any accusation. I guess I reserve judgement. I dont think it was the coastguard but more likely modern day pirates.


If this incident occurred, it was not the Greek Coast Guard. This is obvious.

Have you heard of a Coast Guard carrying whips?
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Re: headline in the alleged news paper - the daily mail

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:39 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:Poor people have been through hell !


Yes, hell - they've been through Turkey.



Your totally pathetic! Why don't you post somthing useful like what you have been drinking tonight.....hic ?`

Or make up some quotes to pass your lonely hours away and to amuse us all :lol:

Have a bit of compassion for these poor people. They were robbed lets hope they catch the bastards and who cares if they are Greek or Turkish or whatever.


Here we go again! :roll: The most boring poster, ever. Mention Turkey and out comes the personal abuse. Forever with drinking on your mind and remastering the use of "hic".

No one here lacks compassion - not for refugees nor overworked coastguards. So stop trying to pretend you are a caring soul on a high horse.
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Re: headline in the alleged news paper - the daily mail

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:00 am

A little more news from which it appears there are lots of possibilities -
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/observations/2015/09/shores-aegean-where-pirates-are-attacking-boatloads-refugees

On the shores of the Aegean, where pirates are attacking boatloads of refugees
Last month three Greek men posing as coastguards were arrested for preying on migrants. With so many people on the move, it’s becoming a big business.
BY
NATASHA TSANGARIDES
“It was the middle of the night when the commandos came,” Mohammed told me. “Commandos” are the pirates of the Aegean. No one knows who they are, but every refugee travelling by boat from Turkey to Greece fears them. So great is that fear that some have taken to lining their pockets with stones before they set to sea, in order to protect themselves.

Mohammed is from Damascus. On 1 August, he was travelling in an inflatable dinghy along with 40 others – including ten children. “We were close to the Turkish coast when they came. They took us on to their boat and searched us, even the women and children. They took my passport, phone and €500. They stole money and mobiles from almost everyone. After that, they broke the motor of the boat and towed us out to sea. We stayed there for six hours, waiting to be rescued. Eventually, the Turkish coastguard came and returned us to Turkey.” Who precisely the attackers were is unclear. “I saw only three men but I think there were four,” he said. “They were dressed all in black with full masks. They didn’t speak a lot, but they spoke in English and another language. I don’t know if they were commandos or the coastguard.”

Stealing from refugees can be big business. Each boat typically holds approximately 45 people. Many leave home with the funds required to smuggle themselves into northern Europe (which can cost around €7,000, depending on your route and smuggler). Sixty-six per cent of those making the journey are Syrian. They come from professional, middle-class backgrounds and have sold everything they own, including their homes, and are sometimes carrying tens of thousands of euros with them.

Not all commando attacks involve theft. The common thread is that the assailants sail alongside the boats cloaked in black and wearing balaclavas, and disable their engines.

Hamed, Marwan and Hussam are from the city of Idlib in north-western Syria. They set off in an inflatable boat from Turkey, along with 45 others, on 15 August. “They circled the boat fast to create waves and make it unsteady,” Hamed recalled. “They were pointing an automatic rifle at us. People were holding up their babies, terrified. They came to the boat and hit two of us with a baton. They broke the engine of the motor and left.

“I don’t think it’s commandos,” he said. “I think it’s the Greek coastguard. All they did was break the motor. I think they didn’t want us to reach the coast.”

Between 1 August 2013 and 30 September 2014, the UN’s high commissioner for refugees collected evidence of 152 alleged returns, or “pushbacks”, from Greece to Turkey. Since January, when Syriza came to power with more liberal immigration policies, reports of pushbacks have declined. Recent attacks suggest that the practice may be increasing, only now along the Turkish sea border.

Elias Bierdel is a founding member of Borderline Europe, an NGO that monitors the EU’s external borders. He told me he has not received a single report alleging European or Greek coastguard involvement this year. “As far as we understand,” he said, “it is mostly the Turkish coastguard doing what they can to stop boats crossing. Maybe they are acting under pressure from the EU. It could also be criminally motivated.”

Last month three Greek men posing as coastguards were arrested for preying on migrants. An investigation showed that the suspects had a motorised boat and five engines, together with rifles stashed in a nearby warehouse. There is no consensus on the commandos’ motivation. In some cases it is clearly theft; in others, it is to deter or even drown refugees.
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