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[Lordo]

this is for the benefit of the blind and deaf swine that roam the fora aimlessly spewing idiocities.

we will not go back to how the stupid brits set up the arab world to get cheap oil and bestowed upon the arab dictatorships that turned the arab world to hell for the people. not even creation of the jewish state on palestinian lands.

our lesson will begin from 1953. why 1953, because this is the time that baton for oppressing the third world was passed to the americans by the brits.

You are, without a shadow of a doubt, the forums Chief Idiot.
Who is killing who, you stupid moron ? Is it not muslims killing muslims, more than 300 thousands Syrians killed thus far, more will soon perish, millions becoming refugees, ever wonder what islam has ever contributed to the welfare of these impoverished folks ?
Sweet fuck all. The .....Arab awakening, my arse !!

keep on living in your ignorance you stupid old arsehole.

so back to the original question. who removed the elected president and government of iran in 1953. simples gavole.

[Maximus]

this is for the benefit of the blind and deaf swine that roam the fora aimlessly spewing idiocities.

we will not go back to how the stupid brits set up the arab world to get cheap oil and bestowed upon the arab dictatorships that turned the arab world to hell for the people. not even creation of the jewish state on palestinian lands.

our lesson will begin from 1953. why 1953, because this is the time that baton for oppressing the third world was passed to the americans by the brits.

You are, without a shadow of a doubt, the forums Chief Idiot.
Who is killing who, you stupid moron ? Is it not muslims killing muslims, more than 300 thousands Syrians killed thus far, more will soon perish, millions becoming refugees, ever wonder what islam has ever contributed to the welfare of these impoverished folks ?
Sweet fuck all. The .....Arab awakening, my arse !!

keep on living in your ignorance you stupid old arsehole.

so back to the original question. who removed the elected president and government of iran in 1953. simples gavole.

Your so clever that it has taken you 10 pages worth of this thread to find out from us stupid idiots. Just google it.

It was Conan the barbarian and his partner, red Sonja.

[Maximus]

[Tim Drayton]

And you want anyone to believe and support the opposite. The result is upwards of 200K dead, several million refugees and now ISIS.

Then you want everyone to accept and pay for refugees and throw scorn on anyone who has an opposite opinion (which could have prevented it all) for not be sensitive to their needs.

You can't suppress all the Sunnis, Christians, and Kurds forever and expect to get away with it Max.

I suppose those not in Assad's favour want a new beginning. That wouldn't be happening if all was good with Assad my good friend.

And don't tell me about all the dead. we know who is responsible for all the dead, and DAESH are only responsible for a small percentage.

Well, this is what is happening to the Christians in Saudi. They are being suppressed/oppressed and prosecuted for practicing Christianity, even in their own homes. The house of Saud does not protect freedom of religion and should be left alone according to you though. The opposite is true in Syria though, right?

You just dont or wont listen mate;

Opposition groups in Syria took a new turn in late 2011, during the Syrian Civil War, as they united to form the Syrian National Council (SNC),[4] which has received significant international support and recognition as a partner for dialogue. The Syrian National Council was recognized or supported in "some capacity" by at least 17 member states of the United Nations, with three of those (France, United Kingdom and the United States) being permanent members of the Security Council.[5][6][7][8][9][10] The Syrian National Council is considered to be influenced by the Muslim Brotherhood and include many affiliated members.[u] The Islamic Front, a major anti-regime Islamist Sunni militia during the Syrian Civil War, is affiliated with the Syrian National Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition

Is this who you are supporting?

... and that's just how they treat indoctrinees of a very similar brand of the God delusion to the one the house of Saud promotes to justify its hegemony. This year somebody was executed in Saudi Arabia simply for questioning the God delusion itself:

Saudi Court Sentences Atheist to Be Executed
http://www.mysecretatheistblog.com/2015 ... death.html

Not that it matters. There is anecdotal evidence that atheism is on the rise in Saudi Arabia, despite the persecution, as it is everywhere:

Atheism explodes in Saudi Arabia, the land of Islam, despite state enforced ban and imprisonment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXnbCtC14VU

[Paphitis]

And you want anyone to believe and support the opposite. The result is upwards of 200K dead, several million refugees and now ISIS.

Then you want everyone to accept and pay for refugees and throw scorn on anyone who has an opposite opinion (which could have prevented it all) for not be sensitive to their needs.

You can't suppress all the Sunnis, Christians, and Kurds forever and expect to get away with it Max.

I suppose those not in Assad's favour want a new beginning. That wouldn't be happening if all was good with Assad my good friend.

And don't tell me about all the dead. we know who is responsible for all the dead, and DAESH are only responsible for a small percentage.

Well, this is what is happening to the Christians in Saudi. They are being suppressed/oppressed and prosecuted for practicing Christianity, even in their own homes. The house of Saud does not protect freedom of religion and should be left alone according to you though. The opposite is true in Syria though, right?

You just dont or wont listen mate;

Opposition groups in Syria took a new turn in late 2011, during the Syrian Civil War, as they united to form the Syrian National Council (SNC),[4] which has received significant international support and recognition as a partner for dialogue. The Syrian National Council was recognized or supported in "some capacity" by at least 17 member states of the United Nations, with three of those (France, United Kingdom and the United States) being permanent members of the Security Council.[5][6][7][8][9][10] The Syrian National Council is considered to be influenced by the Muslim Brotherhood and include many affiliated members.[u] The Islamic Front, a major anti-regime Islamist Sunni militia during the Syrian Civil War, is affiliated with the Syrian National Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition

Is this who you are supporting?

... and that's just how they treat indoctrinees of a very similar brand of the God delusion to the one the house of Saud promotes to justify its hegemony. This year somebody was executed in Saudi Arabia simply for questioning the God delusion itself:

Saudi Court Sentences Atheist to Be Executed
http://www.mysecretatheistblog.com/2015 ... death.html

Not that it matters. There is anecdotal evidence that atheism is on the rise in Saudi Arabia, despite the persecution, as it is everywhere:

Atheism explodes in Saudi Arabia, the land of Islam, despite state enforced ban and imprisonment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXnbCtC14VU

I wouldn't say Christians are being persecuted at all for practicing in their own homes. I know some Westerners who carry a bible in their luggage which btw is also sacred to the Saudis.

However, KSA is an enigma. Nearly everything is possible and tolerated including Christianity, and Alcohol by Westerners. Where it starts to get grey is with non skilled labourers from poor third world countries. It is usually they that cop it, not the Australian, Brit, American, Cypriot or Canadian.

Do not be surprised if some members of the House of Saud are fellow Atheists. They are the epitome of excess and sin as far as the tenets of Islam are concerned. However, religion is used as a means of control and that is an important thing in the KSA, especially in the tribal areas.

Yes, there are many Atheists in the KSA and you got to remember that the law is not equal. If they want to use it against you they will, but generally speaking it isn't.

I am an Atheist, but I would much rather say that I am Christian and it's not a problem.

The system in KSA is tribal and it is the tribal leaders who really dictate at the end of the day.

[Maximus]

And you want anyone to believe and support the opposite. The result is upwards of 200K dead, several million refugees and now ISIS.

Then you want everyone to accept and pay for refugees and throw scorn on anyone who has an opposite opinion (which could have prevented it all) for not be sensitive to their needs.

You can't suppress all the Sunnis, Christians, and Kurds forever and expect to get away with it Max.

I suppose those not in Assad's favour want a new beginning. That wouldn't be happening if all was good with Assad my good friend.

And don't tell me about all the dead. we know who is responsible for all the dead, and DAESH are only responsible for a small percentage.

Well, this is what is happening to the Christians in Saudi. They are being suppressed/oppressed and prosecuted for practicing Christianity, even in their own homes. The house of Saud does not protect freedom of religion and should be left alone according to you though. The opposite is true in Syria though, right?

You just dont or wont listen mate;

Opposition groups in Syria took a new turn in late 2011, during the Syrian Civil War, as they united to form the Syrian National Council (SNC),[4] which has received significant international support and recognition as a partner for dialogue. The Syrian National Council was recognized or supported in "some capacity" by at least 17 member states of the United Nations, with three of those (France, United Kingdom and the United States) being permanent members of the Security Council.[5][6][7][8][9][10] The Syrian National Council is considered to be influenced by the Muslim Brotherhood and include many affiliated members.[u] The Islamic Front, a major anti-regime Islamist Sunni militia during the Syrian Civil War, is affiliated with the Syrian National Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition

Is this who you are supporting?

... and that's just how they treat indoctrinees of a very similar brand of the God delusion to the one the house of Saud promotes to justify its hegemony. This year somebody was executed in Saudi Arabia simply for questioning the God delusion itself:

Saudi Court Sentences Atheist to Be Executed
http://www.mysecretatheistblog.com/2015 ... death.html

Not that it matters. There is anecdotal evidence that atheism is on the rise in Saudi Arabia, despite the persecution, as it is everywhere:

Atheism explodes in Saudi Arabia, the land of Islam, despite state enforced ban and imprisonment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXnbCtC14VU

I wouldn't say Christians are being persecuted at all for practicing in their own homes. I know some Westerners who carry a bible in their luggage which btw is also sacred to the Saudis.

However, KSA is an enigma. Nearly everything is possible and tolerated including Christianity, and Alcohol by Westerners. Where it starts to get grey is with non skilled labourers from poor third world countries. It is usually they that cop it, not the Australian, Brit, American, Cypriot or Canadian.

Do not be surprised if some members of the House of Saud are fellow Atheists. They are the epitome of excess and sin as far as the tenets of Islam are concerned. However, religion is used as a means of control and that is an important thing in the KSA, especially in the tribal areas.

Yes, there are many Atheists in the KSA and you got to remember that the law is not equal. If they want to use it against you they will, but generally speaking it isn't.

I am an Atheist, but I would much rather say that I am Christian and it's not a problem.

The system in KSA is tribal and it is the tribal leaders who really dictate at the end of the day.

Why cant Assad rule like that you pig headed arrogant war mongering ethnic cleansing redneck?

[Lordo]

here we are with assholes on this forum who believe that the arabs are not worthy of democracy and that it is all their own doing. and when they confronted with their stupidity they resort to type and prove their stupidity. democracy your ass boys. you only allow it to yourselves so long as it sucks the blood of others.

and of course you ignore the countries who are dictatorships and yet friends of the west. calling you hypocrite is an insult to all hypocrites

[Paphitis]

Oh believe me Max! Assad is free to rule like the House of Saud if he so wish.

You see, The KSA doesn't bomb or use chemical weapons against the population.

They are no different to Qatar, and believe me when I tell you that most people are quite ok in the KSA so please do not worry about us Christians earning good bucks in the richest country in the world.

We Christians are doing just fine Max. Come over for a holiday mate!

Maybe if Assad ruled like the House of Saud and paid as much as they do, Syria wouldn't be up shit creek and I would consider moving to Damascus. Well maybe not because Jeddah shits on Damascus! Sorry dude.

[Tim Drayton]

Yes, I survived for two years and Qatar, and I am talking about being there 24/7 not coming and then going a few days later, and I never once stated there that I was an atheist. I was there for the money and not for any principles. I would not advise anybody to say that they are an atheist in Saudi Arabia. I have a funny feeling that if you actually had to live there day in, day out for a lengthy period, you would soon lose your rose tinted glasses as far as Saudi Arabia is concerned. Oddly enough, somebody in Libya managed to drag it out of me that I am an atheist - he didn't seem bothered, either.

[Tim Drayton]

Maybe if Assad ruled like the House of Saud and paid as much as they do, Syria wouldn't be up shit creek and I would consider moving to Damascus. Well maybe not because Jeddah shits on Damascus! Sorry dude.

Oh, come on, the Gulf emirs can shore up their positions because they have enough money to spread enough goodies among the populace and to create what is essentially socialism and keep everyone quiet. It works very well in a place like Qatar where there is huge oil/natural gas wealth and a tiny population. Even so, Qatar has a massive state surveillance system rivaling that of the old East German Stasi, which suggests that not all is as well as it seems. You can sense a deep undercurrent of dissatisfaction even in rich Qatar if you look and listen hard enough, and I hear that this is even more so in Saudi, where open rebellions even break out from time to time, although they are not reported. The Shiite minority in Saudi Arabia suffers repression and this is documented. There is a deep rooted aspiration for change in the entire Arab world. It manifested itself in the events known as the Arab spring, just as they did in Europe in the year of revolution of 1848. The revolutionary spirit of 1848 appeared to suffer defeat and was followed by decades of reaction. However, I do not accept that this spirit was ultimately defeated, and it lives on in the post World-War-II Europe to which millions of people are attempting to reach just now in the quest to flee poverty and oppression. I believe that the long march of history is progressive, but it moves dialectically, not in straight lines, and Arab people will not always live under dictatorships.