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[miltiades]

I must confess, I'm poor, struggling 6 days a week, doing 60 hours just to earn a bottle or two of wine. I do however, still and just about, love the sight of a ....blonde in high heels and short skirt, bet you don't have these in Arabia

[Maximus]

Oh and Max, my point is also that there are many Cypriots on this forum who do not give a stuff about these refugees as all they are interested in is rubbishing the USA which is not responsible for the crisis. The rest of the logical world knows who is predominately responsible - your hero Assad!

You see, this crisis is just a Political Football to some of you.

Get Real, Garavnos, Miltiades, and Maximus - you should all hang your heads in shame.

Thank heavens that the vast majority of Cypriots are not like you at all, so much so I now question your Cypriotness because Cypriots are a compassionate people, even more compassionate than Americans or Australians are. Oh yes, i admit it!

now, do the right thing and switch off your computers before you bring more shame to Cyprus on the interwebs!

You are talking sh-t. In all my posts so far, about 2 lines made, reference to what in my opinion is the root of this conflict and situation. I only mentioned the US in part. If you disagree, no problem. we are not debating that are we?

But, you keep digging this up. YOU keep banging on about it. I never alluded to ASSAD being a hero either. So just stop talking Sh-t.

No one here has said they are not willing to help them. Difference in how may exist, Differences in perceptions may be there but you have no moral high ground to take Paphitis. None.

You eluded to US and British interference in Syria! When was this Max? Give me the evidence that the USA and UK are responsible for the crisis in Syria after all the bullshit Assad has been pulling off!

Sorry, but not even the US of fucking A is capable of this if everyone was truly happy and content under the Assad regime max.

Not everyone was happy though were they? There are millions of unrecognized Syrians (The vast majority) who would only be too happy to shove a broom stick up his arse!

Can you blame them Max? Now I do not condone that behavior, but just remember the fact that there are millions of Syrians who would love to rip his head off.

Now, I hated Christofias but not once would I even dream of ripping his head off no matter how much of a Vosko he was!

The moral high ground here Max (which I do not claim) is actually recognizing the facts on the ground in Syria and understanding what has created this crisis. You can say how much you feel sorry for the Syrian Refugees until the cows come home (and I really do feel sorry for them) but they are all hollow words unless spoken by individuals who are actually assisting with the humanitarian aid to these people in Turkey and Greece, or you take it upon yourself to lobby your local politicians to get your country to do more.

Some one who makes the absurd claim that these people are economic refugees does not v=give 2 hoots about the refugees at all.

There's lots here in your reply that should be left to another thread and these threads exist.

They (those who have paid smugglers to come to Europe) are now economic migrants in my opinion, entering Europe illegally. This in no way shape or form equates to not giving two hoots about refugees.

Well lucky for you that you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong you are, and insensitive (and no I do not claim the high horse) - I just know shit when I see it.

Its a fact, they are entering Europe illegally and have paid human traffickers to get there. Like the family of the young boy you referred to earlier, they did not have exit visas from Turkey. I doubt any of them do.

Its a fact, they are migrating towards countries of their choosing for their economic benefit.

Where am I wrong?

[Paphitis]

I must confess, I'm poor, struggling 6 days a week, doing 60 hours just to earn a bottle or two of wine. I do however, still and just about, love the sight of a ....blonde in high heels and short skirt, bet you don't have these in Arabia

I am poor too, working about 15 hours a week for the occasional bottle of wine which I can only have behind closed doors.

And yes don't worry, we may be poor but there are plenty of Russian bomb shells to entertain us should we want them to (and no I don't cheat on my wife as tempting as a mere male like me might feel at times in all my weakness) but I have not succumbed yet.

You see old champ, as strict as it might appear to be, sometimes the place has its surprises. These Russians are bought in for one thing you know.

[Lordo]

despite what the sub-humans are saying regarding refugees. the european people have spoken. ordinary people are helping financially and opening their doors and offering sanctuary to them. humanity is alive in peoples heart after all. shame the governments are blind and deaf.

can you hear their voice.. refugees are welcome. listen you deaf and dumb swine.

[Paphitis]

Its a fact, they are entering Europe illegally and have paid human traffickers to get there. Like the family of the young boy you referred to earlier, they did not have exit visas from Turkey. I doubt any of them do.

Its a fact, they are migrating towards countries of their choosing for their economic benefit.

Where am I wrong?

You're not wrong. but you would do the same thing if you were in their shoes.

And yes, the EU has its obligations under the 1951 UNHCR Convention because they do actually have a right to legitimately run for their lives and ask any EU country for asylum.

[Maximus]

despite what the sub-humans are saying regarding refugees. the european people have spoken. ordinary people are helping financially and opening their doors and offering sanctuary to them. humanity is alive in peoples heart after all. shame the governments are blind and deaf.

can you hear their voice.. refugees are welcome. listen you deaf and dumb swine.

Post a link to where you go this from. These photographs could have been taken anywhere at any time for anything.

[Paphitis]

despite what the sub-humans are saying regarding refugees. the european people have spoken. ordinary people are helping financially and opening their doors and offering sanctuary to them. humanity is alive in peoples heart after all. shame the governments are blind and deaf.

can you hear their voice.. refugees are welcome. listen you deaf and dumb swine.

Post a link to where you go this from. These photographs could have been taken anywhere at any time for anything.

You see Max, these people are not speaking any hollow words. they have taken it upon themselves to put pressure on their Government.

They can claim the moral high horse! Can you?

Wow, there might even be some fellow right wingers like me among them who know right from wrong. Amazing!

[miltiades]

I must confess, I'm poor, struggling 6 days a week, doing 60 hours just to earn a bottle or two of wine. I do however, still and just about, love the sight of a ....blonde in high heels and short skirt, bet you don't have these in Arabia

I am poor too, working about 15 hours a week for the occasional bottle of wine which I can only have behind closed doors.

And yes don't worry, we may be poor but there are plenty of Russian bomb shells to entertain us should we want them to (and no I don't cheat on my wife as tempting as a mere male like me might feel at times in all my weakness) but I have not succumbed yet.

You see old champ, as strict as it might appear to be, sometimes the place has its surprises. These Russians are bought in for one thing you know.

Behind ...closed doors FFS !!!
I do it in the bed mate not behind a bloody door Besides with my poor back and sciatica I wouldn't be able to hold my ...bottle straight

[Maximus]

Its a fact, they are entering Europe illegally and have paid human traffickers to get there. Like the family of the young boy you referred to earlier, they did not have exit visas from Turkey. I doubt any of them do.

Its a fact, they are migrating towards countries of their choosing for their economic benefit.

Where am I wrong?

You're not wrong. but you would do the same thing if you were in their shoes.

And yes, the EU has its obligations under the 1951 UNHCR Convention because they do actually have a right to legitimately run for their lives and ask any EU country for asylum.

Right !

Now if you are asking me what I would do in this situation, I would not be paying smugglers to cram me on an overpopulated unstable inflatable dinghy. Especially without a life jacket. I would not put my wife and 2 children on it under the same circumstances.

I would apply for assylem from Turkey, or lebanon, or whatever neighboring country I got to from Syria. If my application was successful, I would get on a plane and travel business class. If not, then I stay in Turkey and make the most of it or keep trying. I would be grateful to be safe, first and foremost. I would not pay twice or three times business class to human traffickers to travel on a dinghy that's about to collapse without any life support to get to another country illegally.

I would cooperate with the authorities of my host country and be greatful. When the times comes I probably know I would have to leave.

I would land at the country, hand over my paperwork, and go from there.

[Maximus]

despite what the sub-humans are saying regarding refugees. the european people have spoken. ordinary people are helping financially and opening their doors and offering sanctuary to them. humanity is alive in peoples heart after all. shame the governments are blind and deaf.

can you hear their voice.. refugees are welcome. listen you deaf and dumb swine.

Post a link to where you go this from. These photographs could have been taken anywhere at any time for anything.

You see Max, these people are not speaking any hollow words. they have taken it upon themselves to put pressure on their Government.

They can claim the moral high horse! Can you?

Wow, there might even be some fellow right wingers like me among them who know right from wrong. Amazing!

I just see some pictures that could have been taken anywhere, anytime for anything.