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[Piratis]

You started copying pasting again? What denctash is saying is answered by the UN resolutions that call for his pseudo puppet state as illegal and the ECHR decisions that say that GC refugees have the right to return to their homes. Beyond that Denctach (and you) is wasting your time with his propaganda.

Why he doesn't stop the lame excuses and allow people to have their human rights?

[zan]

Only time will tell Piratis. I think it is about time for you to make more idle threats.

I have to also question your stamina in all this Piratis. I have to say that you seem to have a limitless amount of it and are always on this forum. Do you not have a job? I have also got to say though that as the night draws on your English and your grammar gets a little worse. I am not saying that that is so bad that you should feel ashamed but it does make me think that you may be suffering from a bit of schizophrenia. I am in two minds about that though.

[BirKibrisli]

People,I am amazed you still believe there can be "winners" in any war.
You are so entrenched in your positions that you have lost the sight of the big picture.
Zan,tell me how us TCs were the winners of this war?Do you think you are a winner?You have lost one of your fundamental human rights,the right not to be displaced from your place of birth,from your family property.Others,including a large number of Cypriotgreeks,have paid a higher prize,they lost their lives,the ultimate sacrifice.
Am I the winner,or my mother whose family lost all their land and all their properties,who has not been to her birthplace for 38 years?
I have lived most of my life in Australia,a nice enough country but not my own,dreaming about one single wallnut tree I used to climb,the plum trees i used to eat off,and my fig trees,non of which are now standing.
What have I won Zan,the right to die 20,000 kms away from where my little brothers are buried?
When are we going to realise that all of us Cypriots,or for whose who still insist there is no such nationality,Cypriotturks and Cypriotgreeks,are the victims in this terrible tragedy we have stupidly helped bring onto our homeland?When will we stop trying to blame the other for everything that happened?The only way out of this mess is to stop and see the other just as much a victim as ourselves.Not someone to pour hatred on.Then we might get somewhere.We might begin to see that when one of us is killed,when one of us is chased away from their home,when one of us is subjected to human right violations,every one of us is guilty,everyone of us is somewhat less of a human being for letting it happen.
Let us wake up,remove our blindfolds,tear down the walls which are in our minds.We are one people and one nation,and if we don't help care for each other and our country,there will be less and less of us and less and less of our country left.

[Main_Source]

lol Zan ran out of things to say so he got personal.

Wassup Zan...ATCA not updated any propaganda for you to cut and paste?

[zan]

lol Zan ran out of things to say so he got personal.

Wassup Zan...ATCA not updated any propaganda for you to cut and paste?

Thats rich comming from you Source, you are nothing but personal with your insults and bad language. Always got things to say when people do not look at history as it is and try to distort the facts.

[Main_Source]

ME distort the facts!? lol...but you rely on ATCA as a supposed credible source of information and you accuse ME of distorting the facts! lol

[zan]

People,I am amazed you still believe there can be "winners" in any war.
You are so entrenched in your positions that you have lost the sight of the big picture.
Zan,tell me how us TCs were the winners of this war?Do you think you are a winner?You have lost one of your fundamental human rights,the right not to be displaced from your place of birth,from your family property.Others,including a large number of Cypriotgreeks,have paid a higher prize,they lost their lives,the ultimate sacrifice.
Am I the winner,or my mother whose family lost all their land and all their properties,who has not been to her birthplace for 38 years?
I have lived most of my life in Australia,a nice enough country but not my own,dreaming about one single wallnut tree I used to climb,the plum trees i used to eat off,and my fig trees,non of which are now standing.
What have I won Zan,the right to die 20,000 kms away from where my little brothers are buried?
When are we going to realise that all of us Cypriots,or for whose who still insist there is no such nationality,Cypriotturks and Cypriotgreeks,are the victims in this terrible tragedy we have stupidly helped bring onto our homeland?When will we stop trying to blame the other for everything that happened?The only way out of this mess is to stop and see the other just as much a victim as ourselves.Not someone to pour hatred on.Then we might get somewhere.We might begin to see that when one of us is killed,when one of us is chased away from their home,when one of us is subjected to human right violations,every one of us is guilty,everyone of us is somewhat less of a human being for letting it happen.
Let us wake up,remove our blindfolds,tear down the walls which are in our minds.We are one people and one nation,and if we don't help care for each other and our country,there will be less and less of us and less and less of our country left.

What you have won kardesim, is the disrespect of the GCs like Piratis. I might just use that number in my discussions with him you know, 20,000 kms, I bet he comes up with a bigger number.

The moment that they allow me to go to Cyprus as an equal and stop demanding that all the crimes were committed by me and that those 10 or so years are not worth worrying about because the Ottomans did far worse things and that I should be castrated so that I can have no more devils children to suck the blood of their children and so on then I will lay off. Until then I will go on putting them right. I am fed up with being the underdog in this whole affair. I got chased out of my country and they want to add insult to injury by blaming me and mine. No more will I stand by and pretend that the world is intelligent enough to throw out the crap and see realities. It is quite simple, when the truth is understood by all and the realities of the politicians we do not trust are seen as a very real problem in the TC mind, then nothing will move forward.

[Piratis]

When are we going to realise that all of us Cypriots,or for whose who still insist there is no such nationality,Cypriotturks and Cypriotgreeks,are the victims in this terrible tragedy we have stupidly helped bring onto our homeland?When will we stop trying to blame the other for everything that happened?

Birkibrisli, as always I agree with what you say. The only reason I ever talk about the past, blames etc, is when some people are trying to use the past as an excuse to the crimes that insist on committing today. When they do that I have no option than to point out to them that their "side" not only does not deserve rewards on the expense of GCs but has actually committed much more crimes for a much longer period against us.

[Piratis]

What you have won kardesim, is the disrespect of the GCs like Piratis.

I fully respect Bir. The ones I do not respect are the racists that demand violations of human rights like you.

because the Ottomans did far worse things

this is half the truth. Ottomans are only part of it. You talk about that decade and you forget that in that same decade you committed equal crimes against us and then for THREE decades after that you have performed ethnic cleansing and violated our human right and you continue doing that TODAY.
If Ottomans are too far in history, then what about the last 30 years and today. They are too close?

So the only thing that matters for you are the crimes of GCs in that decade. The crimes of TCs in that same decade do not matter, the 300 years of oppression by Ottomans is too old, the 30 years of occupation is too new/excused .. Conclusion: The 100 times worst crimes you committed against us are irrelevant/too old/excused etc, and the only thing that matters are the crimes we committed against you and for this you have to punish us with even more crimes against us! Yeah, right!
Good not all TCs are racist crime supporters like you!

[zan]

When are we going to realise that all of us Cypriots,or for whose who still insist there is no such nationality,Cypriotturks and Cypriotgreeks,are the victims in this terrible tragedy we have stupidly helped bring onto our homeland?When will we stop trying to blame the other for everything that happened?

Birkibrisli, as always I agree with what you say. The only reason I ever talk about the past, blames etc, is when some people are trying to use the past as an excuse to the crimes that insist on committing today. When they do that I have no option than to point out to them that their "side" not only does not deserve rewards on the expense of GCs but has actually committed much more crimes for a much longer period against us.

Is that a halo I see above Piratis' head. The only reason I say what I say is because all TCs are wrong and I am right. They have no rights in Cyprus, only as a minority which gives them no rights at all really. They have the upper hand in the power stakes at the moment but as soon as we can we wiil be running them into the sea.