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Postby Main_Source » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:42 am

How can you say Kifes stoops to the same arrogant and ignorant levels as Eric Dayi!?
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Postby Piratis » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:46 pm

I am personally afraid of one day joining you.Replies by TCs in general seem a bit less aggressive.


The illegal occupation and the violation of the human rights of 100s of thousands of people seems less aggressive to you? Sorry, I don't agree with you.

The aggressive illegal actions that TCs insist on doing as we speak far outweigh any aggressive words which are expressed by some of the people whose rights are violated.
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Postby Rude Gal » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:45 pm

Piratis wrote:
The illegal occupation and the violation of the human rights of 100s of thousands of people seems less aggressive to you? Sorry, I don't agree with you.

The aggressive illegal actions that TCs insist on doing as we speak far outweigh any aggressive words which are expressed by some of the people whose rights are violated.


Everyone is entitled to human rights not just Greek Cypriots! and every human being has the right to self-determination. Given Greek Cypriots sought to remove these rights from Turkish Cypriot back in 1963, you should not be surprised or angry at what has happened subsequently.

I find it sad there is so little awareness of the root causes of this conflict especially for many Greek Cypriots who have complete blanks about period from 63-74. I'm talking about the Akritas Plan and trying to illegally and violently seize power away from Turkish Cypriots. In case you do not believe me, here is a link to an interesting article from Cyprus Mail about the "Bloody Xmas" of 1963 that includes eye witness testimony. http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 2&cat_id=1

It is extremely offensive for the territory Turkish Cypriots currently reside in to be perpetually referred to as "illegally occupied" - which I notice happens frequently on this forum. This is our homeland too and we have as much right to be on Cyprus and determine our/the island's fate as Greek Cypriots. If you remove my ability to do this through the Republic of Cyprus, then I am forced to create another mechanism to represent myself, hence the TRNC.

It may be repulsive to Greek Cypriots to see this development, but you need understand why the TRNC needed to happen before you condemn it. And your failure to do this is the biggest indicator of why Greek and Turkish Cypriots can't come together - your perpetual denial of Turkish Cypriot rights and your intention to villify me and my homeland.

Bro, in London they call these types of attitudes "racist" (it's why Malcolm X felt he needed to campaign for a separate black state within US 'cos the bulk of the white folk back then couldn't seem to get their heads around equal rights for black people.) and there's no way I want to live with a racist, you GET ME?

If you want to have a constructive role in helping bring the two peoples of Cyprus together you have to apply some universal values like equality and respect. I'm open to your needs, why are you not open to mine? I am not seeking to obstruct your life, why are you trying to obstruct mine?
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:55 pm

Rude Gal wrote:
Piratis wrote:
The illegal occupation and the violation of the human rights of 100s of thousands of people seems less aggressive to you? Sorry, I don't agree with you.

The aggressive illegal actions that TCs insist on doing as we speak far outweigh any aggressive words which are expressed by some of the people whose rights are violated.


Everyone is entitled to human rights not just Greek Cypriots! and every human being has the right to self-determination. Given Greek Cypriots sought to remove these rights from Turkish Cypriot back in 1963, you should not be surprised or angry at what has happened subsequently.

I find it sad there is so little awareness of the root causes of this conflict especially for many Greek Cypriots who have complete blanks about period from 63-74. I'm talking about the Akritas Plan and trying to illegally and violently seize power away from Turkish Cypriots. In case you do not believe me, here is a link to an interesting article from Cyprus Mail about the "Bloody Xmas" of 1963 that includes eye witness testimony. http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 2&cat_id=1

It is extremely offensive for the territory Turkish Cypriots currently reside in to be perpetually referred to as "illegally occupied" - which I notice has happens frequently on this forum. This is our homeland too and we have as much right to be on Cyprus and determine our/the island's fate as Greek Cypriots. If you remove my ability to do this through the Republic of Cyprus, then I am forced to create another mechanism to represent myself, hence the TRNC.

It may be repulsive to Greek Cypriots to see this development, but you need understand why the TRNC needed to happen before you condemn it. And your failure to do this is the biggest indicator of why Greek and Turkish Cypriots can't come together - your perpetual denial of Turkish Cypriot rights and your intention to villify me and my homeland.

Bro, in London they call these types of attitudes "racist" (it's why Malcolm X felt he needed to campaign for a separate black state within US 'cos the bulk of the white folk back then couldn't seem to get their heads around equal rights for black people.) and there's no way I want to live with a racist, you GET ME?


Here, here.

Rude Gal wrote:[If you want to have a constructive role in helping bring the two peoples of Cyprus together you have to apply some universal values like equality and respect. I'm open to your needs, why are you not open to mine? I am not seeking to obstruct your life, why are you trying to obstruct mine?


They can't be opened to our needs because it just doesn't suit their agenda, ENOSIS.
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Postby Alexios » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:57 pm

Cyprus is our homeland Rude Gal.....Whatever happened in the past, and it was a lot against both sides, we must never forget that...
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Postby Alexios » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:59 pm

Its amazing how some people insist ENOSIS is still on the G/Cs agenta....Even if it was how on earth can it be achieved??!!!! For God,s sake grow up....
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:11 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Sotos wrote:I think Piratis was right on this one. peace4cyprus, good idea but it didn't work :( As they say you need two for tango. TCs don't want unification so they will do nothing that will help this to happen.


Sotos, it is a disgrace to assume that the TCs in general do not want a solution, just because a few scrums such as Eric Dayi (the thug) for instance and a few more that you met in this forum, do think and /or speak in the way we all see here!


Kifeas, you are nothing but a loud and foul mouthed bully who wants to shut any one up who has different biews to yours. Let's see what admin has to say about this, shall we?


Kifeas wrote:Furthermore, I do not expect and want any TC, especially if he is younger than 60-65 years old, to be obliged to apologise to any GC for what ever happened in the past and in which members of his community were involved, nor do I feel I am obliged as an individual to apologise to any TC for whatever crimes some members of the GC community have done against members of the TC community some 40 or 50 years ago.


So why are you upset about my posting then? Is it because you want me tp apologise even hough I am under the age group you mentioned above?



Kifeas wrote:One last comment that goes to the administrator of this forum! The longer and the more he allows scrums and thugs such as Eric dayi to freely throw their vomits in the forum, without banning them completely out of it, the more I suspect that he is also one of those that do not want a solution, hence the reason he allows them to continue here -so that in a way his own preference is “justified” and /or “legitimised.” Scums like Eric dayi (from both sides) are not Cypriots in a moral sense and they do not belong to Cyprus, nor should they ever be allowed to exist in Cyprus.


So this is what it's all about is it? The same thing happened in Cyprus in 1963 and the reason why we are in the sh*t we are in today. Anyone who has different views to Greeks should be made to shut up, deported or killed. and if the "authorities" do not do what people like you want then they become "traitors", which is what you are calling admin in your writing above.

You Kiefeass and people like you and your thoughts are what started the whole thing in 1963 in the first place because you wanted to take away everyone's rights who had different thoughts then you and now you are crying for your own rights by trying to shut me up and get me banned. You are nothing but a coward.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:11 pm

Rude Gal wrote:
Piratis wrote:
The illegal occupation and the violation of the human rights of 100s of thousands of people seems less aggressive to you? Sorry, I don't agree with you.

The aggressive illegal actions that TCs insist on doing as we speak far outweigh any aggressive words which are expressed by some of the people whose rights are violated.


Everyone is entitled to human rights not just Greek Cypriots! and every human being has the right to self-determination. Given Greek Cypriots sought to remove these rights from Turkish Cypriot back in 1963, you should not be surprised or angry at what has happened subsequently.

I find it sad there is so little awareness of the root causes of this conflict especially for many Greek Cypriots who have complete blanks about period from 63-74. I'm talking about the Akritas Plan and trying to illegally and violently seize power away from Turkish Cypriots. In case you do not believe me, here is a link to an interesting article from Cyprus Mail about the "Bloody Xmas" of 1963 that includes eye witness testimony. http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 2&cat_id=1

It is extremely offensive for the territory Turkish Cypriots currently reside in to be perpetually referred to as "illegally occupied" - which I notice has happens frequently on this forum. This is our homeland too and we have as much right to be on Cyprus and determine our/the island's fate as Greek Cypriots. If you remove my ability to do this through the Republic of Cyprus, then I am forced to create another mechanism to represent myself, hence the TRNC.

It may be repulsive to Greek Cypriots to see this development, but you need understand why the TRNC needed to happen before you condemn it. And your failure to do this is the biggest indicator of why Greek and Turkish Cypriots can't come together - your perpetual denial of Turkish Cypriot rights and your intention to villify me and my homeland.

Bro, in London they call these types of attitudes "racist" (it's why Malcolm X felt he needed to campaign for a separate black state within US 'cos the bulk of the white folk back then couldn't seem to get their heads around equal rights for black people.) and there's no way I want to live with a racist, you GET ME?

If you want to have a constructive role in helping bring the two peoples of Cyprus together you have to apply some universal values like equality and respect. I'm open to your needs, why are you not open to mine? I am not seeking to obstruct your life, why are you trying to obstruct mine?


Couldnt have put it better myself well done Rude Gal, totally agree with you and this is exactly why we cannot find a solution that would allow both sides to commit 100%.
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:15 pm

Alexios wrote:Its amazing how some people insist ENOSIS is still on the G/Cs agenta....Even if it was how on earth can it be achieved??!!!! For God,s sake grow up....


Is it not? Like hell it isn't, if it wasn't then why the hell do the Greeks do not want to share power with us Turks? Why do they insist on being the sole rulers of Cyprus? Why do they not want to even talk to our Government and try to sort out this sh*te?

PS: We have grown up Alexis, it's about time yu grew up and realised you cannot fool us any more.
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Postby Alexios » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:26 pm

I see you havent taken your pills today.....
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