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[Kifeas]

I think Piratis was right on this one. peace4cyprus, good idea but it didn't work As they say you need two for tango. TCs don't want unification so they will do nothing that will help this to happen.

Sotos, it is a disgrace to assume that the TCs in general do not want a solution, just because a few scums such as Eric Dayi (the thug) for instance and a few more that you met in this forum, do think and /or speak in the way we all see here!

Furthermore, I do not expect and want any TC, especially if he is younger than 60-65 years old, to be obliged to apologise to any GC for what ever happened in the past and in which members of his community were involved, nor do I feel I am obliged as an individual to apologise to any TC for whatever crimes some members of the GC community have done against members of the TC community some 40 or 50 years ago.

Do not forget that besides our each ones cultural identity and /or background, we are at the same time individuals and we should not be held responsible, as such, for whatever other individuals have done in the not so recent past and for which we did not have the power (we weren't even born as a matter of fact,) to have altered or to stopped.

I would be glad to help anyone that wishes to identify any such criminal and also insist to bring him in front of the court so that justice is administered -to the extent that something like this is possible now and after so many years, but I cannot assume responsibility and /or personal quilt for his crimes as well. To this end, I wonder why some TCs that happen to have such evidence, do not bring them in front of the courts in the RoC and elsewhere, instead of victimising an entire community for them.

What I accept to be responsible for, is whatever happens or might happen now -in the present time- or in the future, and for which I have the ability to prohibit and /or stop from occurring.

One last comment that goes to the administrator of this forum! The longer and the more he allows scums and thugs such as Eric dayi to freely throw their vomits in the forum, without banning them completely out of it, the more I suspect that he is also one of those that do not want a solution, hence the reason he allows them to continue here -so that in a way his own preference is “justified” and /or “legitimised.” Scums like Eric dayi (from both sides) are not Cypriots in a moral sense and they do not belong to Cyprus, nor should they ever be allowed to exist in Cyprus.

Merry Christmas Administrator and sorry for the above but I feel you deserved it!

[Piratis]

Piratis do you remember a similiar thread where we apologized to each other and that the TCs including myself came forward and whole heartidly stated they were sorry for the past events which caused GCs loss and pain.

I mentioned this since my first post in this thread:
"I was waiting in vain to get something concrete in return from TCs. Unfortunately the response from TCs at the time was some vague "yeah, we apologise too". There was nowhere "we apologise for the 31 years of occupation" or "we apologise for the crimes of TMT" or anything like that. Absolutely nothing."

History repeats itself. (as I knew it would). The fact is that you do not even regret for the ethnic cleansing and the 31 years of occupation. How would you be expected to apologise for something you insist on doing now?

Sotos, it is a disgrace to assume that the TCs in general do not want a solution, just because a few scrums such as Eric Dayi (the thug) for instance and a few more that you met in this forum, do think and /or speak in the way we all see here!

So what should we assume Kifeas? That the majority of TCs are kept in jails or are forbidden to have internet connection?

I've been online for over 6 years, I had discussions with TCs in many forums and I have read what they write in many more. People like Bir are like 1 in 20. The other 19 range from the kind of Eric Dayi to the ones that accept some sort of confederation were the human rights of GCs are still violated.

Even if we assume that TCs that participate in forums are not a representative sample, still the reality can not be far from it. Either we like it or not Eric Dayi, Viewpoint, Zan etc represent a big percentage of TCs, certainly more than what Bir represents unfortunately.

[Sotos]

Sotos, it is a disgrace to assume that the TCs in general do not want a solution, just because a few scrums such as Eric Dayi (the thug) for instance and a few more that you met in this forum, do think and /or speak in the way we all see here!

Why it is a disgrace? If they want a solution then who doesn't? Why the solution was not found? What we want is our human rights and the end of the occupation. If they don't accept this then what solution do they want? A solution without human rights?

[cypezokyli]

comment one : eric that was one of your worst posts.

comment two : i dont thing eric is in the same category with zan and vp.

If they want a solution then who doesn't? Why the solution was not found? What we want is our human rights and the end of the occupation

a solution will/ would have derminate/d the occupation. no solution will be /would have able to satisfy/ied human rights 100%.

[zan]

I am sorry for all the events that led us to the situation we are in today. Like Kifeas said we cannot say sorry for all the wrong doings of our ancestors because we are not responsible for them. I cannot be sorry for thinking that partition is the way forward and not agreeing with unification. I realise that it will not be fair on the people that want to return to their houses and villages but I also acknowledge the fact that, in my opinion, further uprooting the people of Cyprus will do more harm than good. I am sorry to say that I feel that human beings are not mature enough to settle their differences in a civil way. If there is a simple solution to this matter then please find it quickly. With Turkey in the running for EU membership we too will be in the public eye as talks progress. We are making fools of our selves.

[Viewpoint]

I think Piratis was right on this one. peace4cyprus, good idea but it didn't work As they say you need two for tango. TCs don't want unification so they will do nothing that will help this to happen.

Sotos, it is a disgrace to assume that the TCs in general do not want a solution, just because a few scrums such as Eric Dayi (the thug) for instance and a few more that you met in this forum, do think and /or speak in the way we all see here!

Furthermore, I do not expect and want any TC, especially if he is younger than 60-65 years old, to be obliged to apologise to any GC for what ever happened in the past and in which members of his community were involved, nor do I feel I am obliged as an individual to apologise to any TC for whatever crimes some members of the GC community have done against members of the TC community some 40 or 50 years ago.

Do not forget that besides our each ones cultural identity and /or background, we are at the same time individuals and we should not be held responsible, as such, for whatever other individuals have done in the not so recent past and for which we did not have the power (we weren't even born as a matter of fact,) to have altered or to stopped.

I would be glad to help anyone that wishes to identify any such criminal and also insist to bring him in front of the court so that justice is administered -to the extent that something like this is possible now and after so many years, but I cannot assume responsibility and /or personal quilt for his crimes as well. To this end, I wonder why some TCs that happen to have such evidence, do not bring them in front of the courts in the RoC and elsewhere, instead of victimising an entire community for them.

What I accept to be responsible for, is whatever happens or might happen now -in the present time- or in the future, and for which I have the ability to prohibit and /or stop from occurring.

One last comment that goes to the administrator of this forum! The longer and the more he allows scrums and thugs such as Eric dayi to freely throw their vomits in the forum, without banning them completely out of it, the more I suspect that he is also one of those that do not want a solution, hence the reason he allows them to continue here -so that in a way his own preference is “justified” and /or “legitimised.” Scums like Eric dayi (from both sides) are not Cypriots in a moral sense and they do not belong to Cyprus, nor should they ever be allowed to exist in Cyprus.

Merry Christmas Administrator and sorry for the above but I feel you deserved it!

Kifeas what makes you so different from Eric Dayi?

[akiner]

s/he is Greek, upps Greek "Cypriot"

[Main_Source]

now I know VP is a fool.[/b]

[mehmet]

I would like for my own part to apologose to all Greek Cypriots that suffered from the partiition of the island and also for any suffering before. Having not posted for some time (although watching from a distance) it is depressing to see the same arguements endlessly replayed. Lets hope the New Year will see some progress on this issue.

[Jeriko]

now I know VP is a fool.

How does it feel to be basking in self-righteousness,absolute and narrow minded? I am personally afraid of one day joining you.Replies by TCs in general seem a bit less agressive.