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REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Poll ended at Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:58 pm

A. GENUINE REFUGEES
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50%
B. ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS
2
50%
 
Total votes : 4

Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:42 pm

miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:Tim. sorry to tell you mate,[as I am aware that you have been called an "Honourable Man"] you know as much about the tenets of Islam and the interpretations of the "Noble Qur'an" as my arse knows about "Snipe Shooting". :lol:

Is this true ?
" The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter."

How about this ?
"The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran)

How about this.
" Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."



Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

listen stupid old fool you can follow lordos religion.

1. thou shall not burn the kebabs
2. thou shall not sell religious pots and pans.

thats enough for now.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:40 am

Looks as if Europe has now closed its borders to refugees / economic migrants, insisting that those wanting to enter must do so legally.
Will this stem the exodus ? I doubt it very much.
The message now sent to prospective migrants/ refugees is that they must adhere to laws governing entries to European nations.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Jerry » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:03 am

The majority of the Syrian refugees are travelling across Turkey in order to reach the Greek islands. I heard a report a few days ago that said the camps set up for them in Turkey are gradually becoming empty. Surely it's the responsibility of the Turkish authorities to prevent, or at least restrict, this exodus and subsequent transit across Turkey. Perhaps Turkey is glad to see them become someone else's problem and the EU is too scared to reprimand that country for fear of the consequences. One has to wonder what Turkey's motives are for allowing this exodus, could it be that Turkey wishes to create permanent safe havens in northern Syria, and this is its way of putting pressure on its allies.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:44 am

how about tackling the problem at source. get out of syria. stop sending arms there.

terggy has taken 1.9 million refugees. how the hell are they going prevent people leaving.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:41 am

Lordo wrote:how about tackling the problem at source. get out of syria. stop sending arms there.

terggy has taken 1.9 million refugees. how the hell are they going prevent people leaving.


You should tell this to Putin who is sending arms and lots of them to the regime.

They only things we are sending DAESH are bombs!
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:02 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:how about tackling the problem at source. get out of syria. stop sending arms there.

terggy has taken 1.9 million refugees. how the hell are they going prevent people leaving.


You should tell this to Putin who is sending arms and lots of them to the regime.

They only things we are sending DAESH are bombs!

thats great but it seems that what ever it is you are doing it aint working son. we now have 5 million refugees since your activities begun. even a fool would realise that it aint working. but never mind you are not expected to understand the damage you are casing. but of course if 1.9 million people turned up at your doorstep you would soon wise up. it is the easiest thing to fight your war in somebody elses land.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:08 pm

Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:how about tackling the problem at source. get out of syria. stop sending arms there.

terggy has taken 1.9 million refugees. how the hell are they going prevent people leaving.


You should tell this to Putin who is sending arms and lots of them to the regime.

They only things we are sending DAESH are bombs!

thats great but it seems that what ever it is you are doing it aint working son. we now have 5 million refugees since your activities begun. even a fool would realise that it aint working. but never mind you are not expected to understand the damage you are casing. but of course if 1.9 million people turned up at your doorstep you would soon wise up. it is the easiest thing to fight your war in somebody elses land.


Oh yes but the refugees have nothing to do with our presence and neither are they running from us.

They are running from Assad and other groups like DAESH. We are trying to destroy part of the problem!

Oh and it is working because DAESH are losing ground.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:43 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:how about tackling the problem at source. get out of syria. stop sending arms there.

terggy has taken 1.9 million refugees. how the hell are they going prevent people leaving.


You should tell this to Putin who is sending arms and lots of them to the regime.

They only things we are sending DAESH are bombs!

thats great but it seems that what ever it is you are doing it aint working son. we now have 5 million refugees since your activities begun. even a fool would realise that it aint working. but never mind you are not expected to understand the damage you are casing. but of course if 1.9 million people turned up at your doorstep you would soon wise up. it is the easiest thing to fight your war in somebody elses land.


Oh yes but the refugees have nothing to do with our presence and neither are they running from us.

They are running from Assad and other groups like DAESH. We are trying to destroy part of the problem!

Oh and it is working because DAESH are losing ground.


There are some reports that an armed local resistance movement is now in action in Mosul and they are actually in control of parts of the city. Hard information is obviously hard to come by from Mosul, and this may not be so, but I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:03 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:how about tackling the problem at source. get out of syria. stop sending arms there.

terggy has taken 1.9 million refugees. how the hell are they going prevent people leaving.


You should tell this to Putin who is sending arms and lots of them to the regime.

They only things we are sending DAESH are bombs!

thats great but it seems that what ever it is you are doing it aint working son. we now have 5 million refugees since your activities begun. even a fool would realise that it aint working. but never mind you are not expected to understand the damage you are casing. but of course if 1.9 million people turned up at your doorstep you would soon wise up. it is the easiest thing to fight your war in somebody elses land.


Oh yes but the refugees have nothing to do with our presence and neither are they running from us.

They are running from Assad and other groups like DAESH. We are trying to destroy part of the problem!

Oh and it is working because DAESH are losing ground.


There are some reports that an armed local resistance movement is now in action in Mosul and they are actually in control of parts of the city. Hard information is obviously hard to come by from Mosul, and this may not be so, but I am keeping my fingers crossed.


It's only a matter of time Tim. They are on borrowed time.

They will eventually implode from within.
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Re: REFUGEES OR ECONOMIC / ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:11 pm

a bit like taliban right. you aint got a clue what you are talking about, boy.



even the german footballers are in on helping the refugees.

<<<<All football players across the Bundelsiga first and second divisions are to show their solidarity for people fleeing war and poverty by wearing patches for this weekend's round.

All players will carry a patch on their left arm saying ``We're helping, #refugeeswelcome'' instead of an advertisement logo for logistics company Hermes.

Hertha Berlin general manager Michael Preetz says, ``The refugees crisis concerns everyone, nobody can look away. We Bundesliga clubs can ... no, we must use our reach, influence, and ability to help the many refugees who have already suffered so much.>>>>>
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