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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:30 am

repulsewarrior wrote:https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/12/iran-plan-kill-israelis-cyprus-foiled-netanyahu

...it is the third such case in two years.

And yet not one case of actually carrying it out. It is one of those myth created by Israel to draw attention elsewhere. If the Iranians wanted to kill Israelis, there is plenty of them in Turkey and Northern Cyprus. They would have done it by now.

This is Nutenyahu trying to change the narrative claiming Jews are under attack.

Interestingly Starmer in an interview mentioned how he will work towards setting up a two state solution after this war, WFF, where was the talks for the last 30 years about two state solution after the Oslo agreement. Why was that not implemented. Instead first they assassinated Rabin, then we have had settlement after settlement in the West Bank and a blockade with no talks what so ever. Even before Hamas was even in government.

The west is full shit. They are actually participating in slaughter of the innocent lives just as they have been doing in Yemen, Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.

What a fuckin world we live in.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Jerry » Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:06 pm

How and why USA unreservedly supports Israel and its murderous assault on the innocent people of Gaza and the West Bank; the majority of US congressmen and senators owe their seats in Congress to the Jewish lobbying body AIPAC.


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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:11 pm

I do not believe for one moment this has anything to do with Jewish people controlling the government in the USA. It is the USA that is fearful of Hamas as they take no orders from them unlike the Palestinian Authority. Their biggest fear of US corporations is the Hamas ideology will spread to other Middle East states and America will lose control of the resources there.

They may be killing some Hamas fighters but I have no doubt Hamas are recruiting far more than they are losing. The question is when will the US government be shamed to stop it. It took one single picture of a girl as well as 2 million Vietnamese dead before they stopped killing in Vietnam.
I wonder what will be the figure now, 20,000, 30,000, 50,000?

If it reaches anywhere near the Vietnam numbers, they will kill them all.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:57 pm

This is unbelievable. Everybody except Israel is wrong. Ironically there are to countries that dislike UN, Israel and Cyprus.

GENEVA (Reuters) -The Palestinian foreign minister on Tuesday accused Israel of using starvation as a weapon of war against around 1 million Gazans, a charge an Israeli official rejected as "obscene".

The U.N. World Food Programme says half of Gaza's population of 2.3 million is starving as the expansion of Israel's military assault into the southern part of the Gaza Strip, in response to October's bloody cross-border rampage by Hamas militants, has cut people off from food, medicine and fuel.


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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Jerry » Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:32 pm

Lordo wrote:I do not believe for one moment this has anything to do with Jewish people controlling the government in the USA. It is the USA that is fearful of Hamas as they take no orders from them unlike the Palestinian Authority. Their biggest fear of US corporations is the Hamas ideology will spread to other Middle East states and America will lose control of the resources there.

They may be killing some Hamas fighters but I have no doubt Hamas are recruiting far more than they are losing. The question is when will the US government be shamed to stop it. It took one single picture of a girl as well as 2 million Vietnamese dead before they stopped killing in Vietnam.
I wonder what will be the figure now, 20,000, 30,000, 50,000?

If it reaches anywhere near the Vietnam numbers, they will kill them all.


You are wrong, USA has been supporting Israel since its birth in 1948, Hamas was formed in 1987. All over the world politicians are bought by their most generous donors. AIPAC gives equal funding to both main American political parties, the first one who steps out of line loses the cash. Simple logic!
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:40 am

Lets see now. Who drives policy in the American government? Is it the Senators , President or the Judges or is it Corporations?

Answer that and you will get the rest.

Lest switch things around a bit. Why is America arming Saudis to the hilt? Is it because they are Jewish too. Why is America helping Egypt or Turkey or Ukraine or any other tin pot dictator, is it because them's Jewish? I think not.

Your understanding of politics is so shallow. This is a mistake left wing people make. They accuse the Jewish heads of corporations of doing what they do because they are Jewish. It has nothing to do with it. They do it because all corporation heads do it no matter what religion or creed.

These Jewish leaders don't give a shit about Israel or it's people. All they care about is that the Arabs all over the middle east toe the line to the Corporations' interests. It is called capitalism.

How many here realise that it is against the law in the USA to give military aid to any country who has Nuclear weapons?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:35 am



...it escalates.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:04 am



...another bit of History.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:09 pm

What do you know, perhaps there is natural justice after all.

Turkish lawmaker says Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah, has heart attack


Clearly if god does exists, must be looking the other way.


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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:54 pm

Did the west really not realise that trying to wipe out Hamas or trying to stop them ever being able to do it again

1 Trying to wipe them out militarily is impossible
2. They will kill a lot of women and children and women as well as other civilians which will turn against them.
3 The only way to stop Hamas attacking is to give the Palestinians their freedom. This was they will have something to lose if they attack where as currently what have they got to lose.
4. The world is also turning against the corporations who do business with Israel and they will not be happy about being boycotted with their products and services.
5. Did they not realise what bastard Nutenyahu was and what he was capable of.

So now Hamas is gaining support in the West Bank too.

Interesting that Israeli media shows no images of what the IDF is doing in Gaza. Are the Israelis so stupid as not to see beyond their media?
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