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by **Lordo** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:47 pm

Hamas looks like they may be prepared against flooding. They look like they have compartmentalised the tunnels.
I also suspect the soldiers will not be released till after ceasefire.

by **repulsewarrior** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:25 pm

https://greekcitytimes.com/2023/11/22/1 ... -flotilla/

...indeed, like the Cypriot plan to bring aid to Gazans, it is a dust-off of plans from 10 years ago.

(Needless to say that Israel's leadership finds itself in a much more difficult position this time and much more dangerous, having to confront an issue, blockade, that they have ignored for decades.)

Indeed, where Cyprus goes so does Turkey. There are many examples of this, the East Med. Gas Forum comes to mind.

...Netanyahu i think will choose to have a trade corridor created between Cyprus and Gaza, rather than the Mavi Marmara a thousand times bigger it may provoke.

...ultimately it is a great sign that he weakens, what choice(s) does he have? Israelis are not prepared for such a forever war with days-off for Holidays and special occasions; this being "Peace".

...speaking of "swarming", thousand(s) of little crafts; it is a Modern Warfare tactic which as yet has not been demonstrated to any scale, except by China (with their fishing fleets).

by **Kikapu** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:08 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Just an observation.

After over a month of the Zionist Nazis murdering thousands of Palestinian citizens through acts of War Crimes when we are told this is a war between Israel vs. Hamas, and yet, the IDF has not been able to find one hostage from the estimated 240 to be rescued, which then must mean, they haven’t been able to find and hostages anywhere or any Hamas members holding them, so now Israel is forced to accept a ceasefire to get back some of the hostages in a proper way through negotiations. So much for the IDFs ability to fight Hamas in urban warfare with their supposedly advance intelligence gathering skills.

Kick's ........ I made my prediction of what Israel would do a few pages back and it looks as if I was right!

The Israeli’s are cowards! You see it in every confrontation whether it is in Gaza, Lebanon or Syria. They rely rely on massive weapon superiority ….. not military prowess.

So far they have dropped the equivalent of 3 Hiroshima’s on Gaza, a strip of land just 7.5Km x 25km populated in the main by civilians over 50% of those civilians being children. They have applied a total siege for decades, they deprive their victims of all the necessities of life including water and medical aid. The bomb all the schools, hospitals and other common facilities because they could be used for their enemy to hide in/behind. They pound them with artillery and missiles all night, and when dawn breaks they send in the Tanks and APC’s to shoot at anything moving of left standing and obviously redirect the bombing where Israeli forces are not operating on the ground.

The one thing you won’t see the Israeli’s getting involved in is URBAN WARFARE ……. for the simple reason an awful lot of nice Israeli boys and girls would die! HAMAS has had their defense planed and built up over many years. Something we have yet to see is Israel making any progress in infiltrating the tunnel system ……… because they are cowards and won’t take on HAMAS, (or Hezbollah), face-to-face in Urban Warfare, because they would get wiped out.

So far the ceasefire has been maintained by HAMAS but the Israeli’s have injured a few dozen Palestinians when they tried to return to their former homes to retrieve items left behind in Gaza City and the North. So the ceasefire is once again enacted under threats and attacks by Israeli military.

What you state above are all too true, RH.

When the Arab resistance fight Israelis, they have their God behind them as they become fearless. All the Israel’s IDF have behind them when they fight, is the USA‘s weapons of mass destruction with indiscriminate killings from a safe distance. This is what cowards do. But the IDF has no shame and neither those not condemning Israel for their mass murdering of innocent Palestinians for the actions of Hamas. Israel will be attacked by different factions whenever the opportunity allows it as long as they treat the true owners of these lands, the Palestinian, by refusing to have a equatable two-state solution. It is only a matter of time, and by them murdering thousands of Palestinians, it will only enhance those realities. Israel thought by buildings walls they would be safe by keeping danger out. That did not work, so, now what?

by **Kikapu** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:47 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Lordo wrote:
How the hell do they intend to wipe out Hamas if they do not enter the tunnels? I guess they are hoping that if they kill enough women and children then Hamas will come out with white flags and surrender.

The Zionists have turned Azrael into a zombie nation.

Think about it!

If the whole area is bombed flat there will be no buildings to hide in and HAMAS will move exclusively underground, With only sporadic small arms fire and explosions fired from underground to cope with, the Israeli's will do just what the Russians were going to do in Mariupol when the AZOV battalion took hostages and disappeared underground in The Steel Works. They initially started by starving them out ........ but the final straw was when the Russians let it be known they were going to flood the tunnels with sea water! The AZOV were trapped with no way out. Out came the White Flag and the Western MSM hailed them as hero's!

The difference between the underground networks in Mariupol and in GAZA is that, Russians built the underground networks in Mariupol, therefore they had the blueprints of the place. I don’t think Israel has any clue how the tunnels are built in GAZA for them to successfully flood them. No doubt there are many airtight doors built to prevents such flooding attempts, originally designed to prevent Israel gassing them.

by **Lordo** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:22 pm

They showed us one door down a tunnel and it had a massive bomb proof door and a shooting hatch.

Interesting this morning, a reporter from Jewish News she the usual crocodile tears about a 10 month baby being held a hostage. How many babies have been killed since. Unfortunately the presenter did not feel the need to ask that question.
A question asked of him was why Azrael releases 3 times as many hostages which they call administrative detention as Hamas. It was pointed out to him that the children are locked up for throwing stones. Apparently a stone thrown can kill a person. I wonder how many people have been killed in Palestine from being hit by a stone.
Another interesting thing this reporter claimed was that the reason why 3 times more Palestinian hostages are released is because Hammas has the upper hand.

On another call a Zionist said his only friend in the country is Tommy Robinson. Appropriate really because back in the 30s, the Zionists also saw Nazis as their friends and made a pact with them to get some of their wealth out, and sod the rest of the Jewish people, and they were left to their fate in the hands of the Nazis. The reporter asked him to explain why the phrase "From the river to the sea" is antiemetic and he was adamant Hamas was going to kill all the Jews. Despite what it says in their 2017 Principles and Objectives. Especially after what we have found what bible verse Nutenyahu read to his troops before the invasion, asking them to kill:

From man unto woman, from infant unto suckling, from ox unto sheep, so that the name of Amalek not be mentioned even with reference to an animal by saying "This animal belonged to Amalek"

After South Africa has been dismantled, Azrael is the only country on earth where not all people are free and yet they call it democracy. It is shit.

by **Lordo** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:13 pm

Azrael despite agreeing to allow aid for exchange of hostages, decided that it did not apply to Northern Gaza. They also were stopping people returning to see the state of their properties.

There is no worse disgusting human beings today than Azrael and their Zionists but it seems they have infected most of the Jewish people into their zombie culture.

Hamas' al-Qassam Brigades added that the hostage releases would be delayed if Israel did not adhere to the agreed terms for the release of Palestinian prisoners.
In response, an Israeli military spokesperson told French television channel BFM that Israel fully respected the truce.

And there are some idiots hear who claim it is Hamas who cannot be trusted.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/hamas-delays-second-hostage-release-until-israel-lets-aid-into-northern-gaza/ar-AA1kwmbl?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=06052da450c44dc792e097ece252e673&ei=11

by **repulsewarrior** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:28 pm

...really a credit to Biden, how he handles such crisis, and how, who at the heart of the issue stay informed; because this is his goal.

The “secret cell” process was put to the test with the release of two American hostages, Judith Raanan and her teenage daughter, Natalie, on 20 October. As they were led on a potentially perilous journey to the Rafah crossing point, their progress was monitored live by Sullivan and McGurk from the White House. As soon as they were met by a US diplomat on the Egyptian side, Biden phoned Natalie’s father to confirm they were free.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... l-was-done

...and more on the 'deals' which were and are being made.

by **repulsewarrior** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:54 am

''...comparing the impact of conflict."

...by sensing "lateral" damage using radar technology from open transmissions of satellites.

by **Lordo** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:55 pm

What Azrael does not realise is that the violence is on an upward curve. Next time it will not be 1200 killed it will be 12,000 instead. It makes no difference what they do, how many people they kill and how many homes they destroy. The more destruction the more fierce the attack will be next time.

Perhaps, the world will wake up and force Azrael to stop blockading the Palestinians and allow them to live normal lives. The logic is very simple. If people have something to lose they are unlikely to start trouble, but if they have nothing to lose, what have they got to lose.

by **Robin Hood** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:50 am

Letter From Israeli “Hostage” To Hamas ..........

BREAKING: LETTER FROM ISRAELI HOSTAGE TO HAMAS

“To the generals who have accompanied me in recent weeks, it seems we will part ways tomorrow, but I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your extraordinary humanity shown towards my daughter, Emilia.

You were like parents to…........
https://informationclearinghouse.blog/2023/11/27/letter-from-israeli-hostage-to-hamas/

Read the letter and compare those sentiments to the pictures of the IDF tearing down 'Welcome Home' banners and dispersing those waiting to greet the released hostages Israel has been holding for years in appalling conditions.

They were told by a Zionist Minister that celebrating THEIR release was not allowed and the IDF were instructed to disperse all Palestinians waiting for the return of the Israeli held hostages .... that they call prisoners ..... even though 80% of those released have never been charged with any crime ..... some just teenagers arrested for throwing stones! Mostly under 18 when abducted by the Israeli's and held, some for as long as 8 years without trial.

So who comes out as the more civilised and humane? Hamas of or the Zionists? :?: