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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Maximus » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:02 pm

Lordo wrote:How much more clear can Hamas say in what they believe in.

16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.


Hamas accepted the Oslo agreement where Israel keeps 78% of Palestine in a two state solution. The above paragraph was written decades later in the new objectives in 2017. It is Israel that for decades not only refused to implement Oslo agreement but keep building settlements in the West Bank making the lives of Palestinians there impossible.


I know Israel is not innocent in this conflict,

But you are quoting shit that is contradictory to what Hamas did on October 7th and it is so ambiguous in meaning because Palestine is a region that includes the state of Israel.

Anyway, where is a link to the source for point 16? Did you just make it up?

Palestine is also derived from Latin and Greek.

The Philistines expanded into neighbouring areas and soon came into conflict with the Israelites, a struggle represented by the Samson saga (Judges 13–16) in the Hebrew Bible. Possessing superior arms and military organization, the Philistines were able (c. 1050 bce) to occupy part of the Judaean hill country.


You see the Iraelites were in Palestine from 3000 years ago but were driven out.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Kikapu » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:20 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:Hamas co-founders son speaks out about the Israel-Gaza situation.

This passionate speech is definitely worth the 12 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2BSDLFVT74

Here are the highlights:

> The intended plan or goal for Hamas was and is to annihilate Israel.
> They are brutal and abuse power.
> Hamas torture and kill Palestinians and are willing to sacrifice them for their religious and ideological agenda.
> As an ex-Hamas member, they need to be stopped now.
> The people of Gaza have been oppressed for so long for the sake of Hamas lust for power.
> The way to peace is war to remove Hamas, They left Israel and the free world no choice but to end them
> The Palestinian society has been hijacked by these criminals, anyone who takes their side is participating in Hamas crimes.
> Hamas rockets misfire, killed hundreds,of Palestinians at the hospital and they blame Israel.
> Corrupt Palestinian leadership.


Max, Max, Max, come on man. How can you recommend anyone to watch this crap?

Very disappointed, Max!

I watched just the introduction by Piers Morgan to tell me all about this traitor character who is now living in New York to dismiss anything he has to say, because he is a bought man by Israel and the USA. :roll:


:lol:

And Hamas are bought by Iran, while their leaders are living in Qatar. So does that mean we should dismiss anything they say too?


I didn’t realize you or anyone in the West accepted or cared anything what Hamas had to say, or else, there would be a two-State solution already by now if they had!

Let’s not play silly games, Max! :roll:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Maximus » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:23 pm

You started it Kiks.

I think you see the folly in dismissing what he has to say now.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:28 pm

Clearly the the Swine West is trying to blame Hamas even for the shortages in Gaza. Just the same as they are blaming Hamas for all the Israeli war crimes. They accuse people who mention the state of Gaza before the 7th of October as excusing Hamas actions and yet they do not see that they do exactly the same for Israel using 7th of October to excuse Israel's criminal activities at the same time even denying that Israel is acting in a criminal way.

They claim that Hamas is hording supplies for 3 to 4 months. Not sure how true this is but let us assume it is. What the hell is the point of Israel blockading supplies to Gaza then?

I see idiots here still do not recognise it was Israel who helped create Hamas in the first place not Iran. WTF are these people smoking shit covered mushrooms?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Kikapu » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:41 pm

Maximus wrote:You started it Kiks.

I think you see the folly in dismissing what he has to say now.


Not at all, Max.

You would accept the words of a bought man and reject words spoken by Hamas leaders in wanting a peaceful two-state solution for years, but refused by Israel, and then you wonder why October 7th happened when the Palestinian are oppressed everyday of their lives! :roll:

Actually, the Israeli citizens themselves need to solve the Palestinian problem and no one else, just like the way Americans solved the slavery in the USA, though so far not the racism and equality yet. More so in Israel, as the Palestinians are on their own land and are willing to share it with the, once upon a time, Israelites. :wink:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:42 pm

News today.

Israel's military chief says the war with Hamas has entered its next stage, with the "best soldiers" now on the ground in Gaza

Clearly the rest of army is shit.

and then this.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called Israel's strikes in Gaza a "massacre" - shortly after that, Israel's foreign minister called for all Israeli diplomats in Turkey to leave


Things clearly are not going well especially as Dr Death did not veto last night's UN resolution.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:44 pm

I remember the Israeli-Arab war of 1973. I also remember my Jewish school friends collecting money to help Israel. And of course Saudi Arabia cutting back on oil production which led to increase of oil price from about 6 dollar a barrel to 33 dollars. Bur somehow I do not remember the assassination of King of Saudi Arabia in 1975. I guess we were too preoccupied with the war in Cyprus.

What a historical clip this is. I have no doubt the CIA had everything to do with this.


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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:27 pm

This just has to be the strangest thing I have ever seen. America said we got your back but they are still asking for aid for war.

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:40 pm

I mean where have I seen that before. A decent leader removed by the fuckin Yanks. May they and their supporters rot in hell.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:58 pm

People of Palestine should know that there are people all over the world who support their cause to freedom.

Describes Gaza exactly this evening.

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