Kikapu wrote:The problem with your thinking is, you cannot put history aside between Israelis and the Palestinians, because everything that happens, it is important part of the historical context!
You want to start the clock from October 7th on what Hamas did to the Israelis, but without historical context, someone else too will want to start the clock from October 8th to what the Israelis military continues to do in Gaza, which has been War Crimes on steroids, so be careful what you ask for, because the arguments and answers may not be in your favour!
But this is nothing new with you since you believe the Russian- Ukraine (NATO) war started on 24th February, 2022. Without historical context, there will be no understanding why what happens happen, to which no one will be interested in any arguments you would want to make, because without context, your arguments will be empty and meaningless.
Case in point. There is no Team Russia/Hamas here and you have been told this before, but you continue to insist on it which you think helps you reinforce your ever losing arguments. It is a losing proposition for you for using Team Russia/Hamas as it makes you are sore loser, like a child throwing a temper tantrums by constantly repeating what you believe to be point scoring mantra. All I can say to that is, don’t give up your day job to become a propagandist because you suck at it, though not for lack of trying, but losing on merits on your attempts when you ignore the collective West’s support of Nazi praising Zelensky’s war against Russia, just because you do not always think historical contexts is important. If you were to use historical context all the time in your arguments, even when it does not favour your position, then even you will reach a different conclusions if you allowed yourself to do so!
Thank you Kickapu for a post that is a breath of fresh air!
I have been telling him this for over 10 years but he is NEVER "....all ears" in fact exactly the opposite, he is all about HIS opinions! He never listens and rarely has any thing worthwhile to add to a thread and he spends most of his effort in running others down.
He posted a load of rubbish based on his opinion about the Ukraine/Russia conflict and I felt I had to reply. When faced with a putdown based on openly available historic facts, when they are explained to him, he has nothing to defend or explain his view. So them we get sarcasm and comments like " ... life's too short" or ".. couldn't be bothered" and he does this because he has no answer.
His attacks on me have been constant on several forums over at least ten years probably more, although I don't keep the meticulous notes he does. If you knew some of the details you would realise he is NOT a very pleasant person to have a discussion with. You cannot 'discuss' with him you have to listen to his opinion ...... and he has very entrenched opinions.
But after your post at least I know there are other that have the same view as myself.
