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[Lordo]

...needless to say, a notion of Hope. (i make no judgement)

One can only conclude that when people lose power in politics their funking ears get unblocked. They can then hear their victims.

[Kikapu]

Putting the history lessons aside for a moment. However important they are in context.

What's your view on last week? Let me rewind.

Hamas came out of Gaza in powered paragliders and vans, to a music festival taking place at a place called Re'im. There they surrounded the crowd and literally executed 260 young people. They deliberately shot them dead. Subsequently, other groups attacked several Kibbutz and wiped out whole families. Down to infants and babies, For good measure they spared 200 or so and abducted them to Gaza as hostages.

Apart from the forum total idiot moron Lordo I don't think any of team Russia/Hamas have expressed a view.

I am all ears.

Simply - what's your opinion of the above atrocities and - this I appreciate is pushing it - how do you think absolutely any government on this planet would have reacted to that sort of shite?

The problem with your thinking is, you cannot put history aside between Israelis and the Palestinians, because everything that happens, it is important part of the historical context!

You want to start the clock from October 7th on what Hamas did to the Israelis, but without historical context, someone else too will want to start the clock from October 8th to what the Israelis military continues to do in Gaza, which has been War Crimes on steroids, so be careful what you ask for, because the arguments and answers may not be in your favour!

But this is nothing new with you since you believe the Russian- Ukraine (NATO) war started on 24th February, 2022. Without historical context, there will be no understanding why what happens happen, to which no one will be interested in any arguments you would want to make, because without context, your arguments will be empty and meaningless.

Case in point. There is no Team Russia/Hamas here and you have been told this before, but you continue to insist on it which you think helps you reinforce your ever losing arguments. It is a losing proposition for you for using Team Russia/Hamas as it makes you are sore loser, like a child throwing a temper tantrums by constantly repeating what you believe to be point scoring mantra. All I can say to that is, don’t give up your day job to become a propagandist because you suck at it, though not for lack of trying, but losing on merits on your attempts when you ignore the collective West’s support of Nazi praising Zelensky’s war against Russia, just because you do not always think historical contexts is important. If you were to use historical context all the time in your arguments, even when it does not favour your position, then even you will reach a different conclusions if you allowed yourself to do so!

[Lordo]

Lets see now if I can spell out the Swine hypocrisy about the Gaza attacks.

Gaza has been enclaved since Hamas won a fair election and I mean an election not some coup like in Ukraine.
Gaza has been invaded many times in the past and been bombed regularly from the air by Israel.
People in Gaza are allowed to leave Gaza only if they can get Israel to agree with it.
Prior to 7th of October over 8000 Palestinians have been killed compared to 300 Israelis.
If you look at the incidents in the past the Palestinian people always responded to attacks by Israel.
Palestinians want is freedom in their own country. There is over 9 million Palestinians around the region. There is 97 countries in the world out of 210 recognised states that have more populations, the rest are less than that. Kurds are in exact same situation.
Palestinian fighters attacked one day, where as Israel is bombing them while they are not able to fight, they have no defense against the Israeli/Yank war machine. But they will be able to resist if ground troops set foot in Gaza.
Ukraine asked to join Nato and have Nuclear weapons stored on the Russian border. The Palestinians have not asked Iran to set up bases in Gaza and store missiles there. All they are asking for is freedom. Not that there is that much freedom in the world but at least to try to function like human beings.

Since the 7th October they have faced thousands of bombs with whole neighbourhoods razed to the ground.
Water, food , fuel and medical supplies have been blocked.
Israel is talking now about intensifying bombing after the 20 trucks of aid has been delivered when UN say what is needed is 400 trucks a day to stop the catastrophe that is taking place against a civilian population. Israel is claiming that the needs of Palestinians are under control, there is no real emergency.
Israel is telling them to move south but they continue to bomb the south as much as the north.
Ukraine can declare ceasefire anytime it likes, it chooses not to. And of course in Gaza it is the Azraelis and the Yanks that choose not to declare ceasefire. Fuck only a few days ago the Yanks vetoed a UN Security Council resolution that would have called for “humanitarian pauses” to deliver lifesaving aid to millions in Gaza. The failure by the Council to make its first public intervention on the Israel-Gaza crisis followed the rejection of a Russian-backed draft on Monday evening. This was no ceasefire just stop for a while till aid is delivered and you can carry on as before.

In some way the Swine believe that what Russia did in Ukraine and What Azrail is doing to the Palestinians in some way equate.

[Lordo]

It seems even the moderates in Swineland are gutless. There is no comparison between what Hamas did and what Israel is doing today and has been doing for 80 fuckin years to the Palestinians.

Not allowing essentials to civilians is a war crime for those who inflict it and for those that support it too. May all the fuckin Swine go to hell.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/steve-coogan-defends-gaza-support-letter-and-condemns-horrific-and-brutal-hamas-attack/ar-AA1iEvmm?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=a2ce3802f5014f91b4a29a9933a880f1&ei=9

[Lordo]

The Zionist Swine gather in London draped in Israeli flags asking for the releasing of hostages while bombs are raining on the Palestinians with at least 1 million people left homeless so far.

How about calling for a ceasefire, exchange hostages and negotiate a settlement so Palestinians can live like Human beings. There are thousands of innocents civilians in Israeli prisons, being held without even being charged which include 500 children too. Is that too much to ask?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67188755

[Lordo]

Well there it is. First tank hit with an anti-tank missile. One soldier dead, and three injured. So clearly all this bombing has done nothing to reduce risks for the Zionists soldiers. At least they now know that they may not be coming back alive despite what their officers assurance of how strong they are.

Body bags have started coming in.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israel-gaza-israeli-soldier-killed-during-gaza-raid-military-says/ar-AA1iDBSN?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=6cc35cf803234ab5a069a05de65d6b55&ei=11

[Lordo]

I was not expecting this

Wow and double wow.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/intifada-until-victory-declare-oxford-academics-before-meeting-on-israel-hamas-war/ar-AA1iF2bs?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=2d72c990c3964b89926a2d3e3c84115c&ei=10

[Lordo]

Finally a passionate appeal to the UN but I am afraid it will fall on def ears in the Yank lands and the Zionist State.

[repulsewarrior]

Finally a passionate appeal to the UN but I am afraid it will fall on def ears in the Yank lands and the Zionist State.

...tears to my eyes. Thanks, Lordo. But i am more hopeful than you; said so clearly and from a Statesman it is hard to ignore: (fuck "Them" anyway,) things do not stay the same forever.

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... story.html

...for the record.