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[Lordo]

If Israel is allowed to continue with bombing from the air sure as hell sooner or later it will escalate. I have no doubt that even if they stop bombing, unless the borders open then Hamas will go on the offensive again. There is no other way.

[Lordo]

17 years old, shot in the back and killed as he running away after throwing a stone.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/world-sees-palestinian-deaths-as-not-as-important-as-israeli-deaths-says-grieving-dad-in-west-bank/ar-AA1iwJ8K?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=a8aa4b827e8443f09f4c6a0303ffd9ac&ei=11

[Lordo]

Surely if Netanyahu knew that Hamas attacked to derail peace between Israel and Saudis, the the thing to do was attack the killers, close the border and return to the table to complete the peace deal.
Why do what Hamas wanted him to do?

[Robin Hood]

For those that ‘Stand With Israel’ (SWI) they must have the same beliefs as these ordinary Jewish settlers express in this street interview.

They all seem very surprised at the question and immediately blame Palestinians for stealing what ‘GOD gave to the Jewish people’ some 4000 years age. Unless you believe this you cannot possibly support Israel’s land theft and blame the violence on the Palestinians that resist them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHRuULJ97vQ

If a person is that deeply brain washed then they can so easily be exploited and will believe anything ..... and this article explains how Israel (and the Western Media) carry that out. There can be no denying what Chris Hedges says, he worked within that system for decades and we see it every day in the Media........ that is unless you are brainwashed to believe without questioning what you are being told!

Israel's Culture of Deceit - Chris Hedges • October 19, 2023

Washington DC — (Scheerpost) — Israel was founded on lies. The lie that Palestinian land was largely unoccupied. The lie that 750,000 Palestinians fled their homes and villages during their ethnic cleansing by Zionist militias in 1948 because they were told to do so by Arab leaders. The lie that it was Arab armies that started the 1948 war that saw Israel seize 78 percent of historic Palestine. The lie that Israel faced annihilation in 1967, forcing it to invade and occupy the remaining 22 percent of Palestine, as well as land belonging to Egypt and Syria.

Israel is sustained by lies. The lie that Israel wants a just and equitable peace and will support a Palestinian state. The lie that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The lie that Israel is an “outpost of Western civilization in a sea of barbarism.” The lie that Israel respects the rule of law and human rights.

https://www.unz.com/article/israels-culture-of-deceit/

I fear that the losers in this will be the Jewish people as they are gullible to this religious propaganda and will suffer worldwide reprisals! Once again taking the punishment whilst the Zionist puppet masters avoid being identified and brought to trial.

If you go back in history just over a 100 years you will find that it was an agreement between Balfour and the Zionists (The Balfour Treaty) that set all this in motion when Balfour said the British would support the Zionist forming The State of Israel on the Palestinian lands and in return the Zionist promised to bring the US into WWI ........ when at the time Britain and Germany were discussing an armistice as both countries were skint.

[Jerry]

Why is the USA so dedicated to supporting Israel, how does Israel persuade the the most powerful nation on earth to support it through thick and thin?

AIPAC funds both American political parties in equal amounts. Democrats and Republicans risk losing their major source of funding if they step out of line - simple isn't it!

https://www.aipac.org

No doubt the Palestinian fighters are funded by the wealthy Arab states but they do not have the military clout of the USA.

[Lordo]

Why is the USA so dedicated to supporting Israel, how does Israel persuade the the most powerful nation on earth to support it through thick and thin?

AIPAC funds both American political parties in equal amounts. Democrats and Republicans risk losing their major source of funding if they step out of line - simple isn't it!

https://www.aipac.org

No doubt the Palestinian fighters are funded by the wealthy Arab states but they do not have the military clout of the USA.

I hope you watch this as it is addressing precisely the people who think like you whether you are Jewish or not. I would not call it support, it is more akin to use. Same way the Yanks use Turkey or any other country they have bases in. They do the same in the rest of the Arab world except Syria, Iran and Yemen. They used to do it in Iran but since they kicked the Americans and the Brits out Iranians have not had a day of peace. I agree that Ayatollahs are not exactly democratic but they cam to power because of the Yanks. Given half a chance they will be overthrown like they did to Mossadegh.

[Lordo]

What was the purpose of telling people to move south if they were going to bomb the south as much as they are bombing the north? They are evacuating town near the border with Lebanon but it is claimed Hezbollah have 150,000 misses that can hit Tel Aviv. I guess this is what the Yanks want, they can sell more weapons this way.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israel-pounds-gaza-evacuates-town-near-lebanon-ahead-of-expected-ground-offensive-against-hamas/ar-AA1iy6zw?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=df3307db358b4f3fa266a2442c821069&ei=13

[Kikapu]

What was the purpose of telling people to move south if they were going to bomb the south as much as they are bombing the north?

That’s easy to answer, Lordo.

By having a greater concentrated number of people in smaller area, Israel gets to kill more people with each explosives. You know, they can get more for their money spent on the weapons. Just like what the cunt Lindsey Graham said to Zelensky, that this is the best money America has spent killing Russians. Well, Netanyahu wants to make sure he has enough weapons to kill all of the Palestinian Niggers with the least amount of bombs. He is economizing just in case he doesn’t get more bombs from the collective West for his killings. He has learned a thing or two from Nazi praising Zelensky not to fire more shells than that can be replaced!

[Lordo]

The Israeli defence minister says that Once the war with Hamas is over, Israel will bring to an end its "responsibility" for life in the Gaza Strip.

Does this mean they will stop controlling Egyptian border and the access to the sea and airspace?

During a briefing to parliament's foreign affairs and defence committee, Yoav Gallant listed the severing of ties with the coastal enclave as one objective of Israel's military campaign.

Gallant also outlined objectives of "the elimination of Hamas and destruction of both its military and governing capabilities" and the "creation of a new security reality in the region", according to a statement.

Do they not realise that if they should be able to wipe out Hamas Islamic Jihad will take over from then on?

[Maximus]

so what are the options Bordo,

Fight terrorists or Islamic Jihadists?