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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:27 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:My theory is that Hamas have been watching Robin Hood's videos about how the 'Mericans wired up the Twin Towers and blew them up, killing 3,000 and got clean away with it!

So they thought, "we'll wire up a few buildings in Gaza with explosives, blow them up and the Jews will get the blame!"

Simples really... :wink:


You missed out a couple of important factors in your analogy:

1. There would have had to have been close coordination between Mossad and Hamas to ensure coordination between the air attack and blowing up of the hospital.

2. Everybody involved, and all those who knew about it, would need to keep totally silent until at least 2045. Not so much as a single word from any one of them.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:40 pm

What is it about politicians that do not listen to the victims relatives.

“Do not use our death and our pain to bring the death and pain of other people and other families,” Noy told the hundreds-strong crowd, as the government bombed Gaza and prepared for a massive ground invasion. “I have no doubt that even in the face of Hamas people that murdered him … he would still speak out against the killing and violence of innocent people.”


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/do-not-use-our-pain-to-bring-death-plea-to-israel-from-peace-activists-grieving-families/ar-AA1ivCv0?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=a14fae2e5dd34a98b50e8e462120ee76&ei=9
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:50 pm

Lordo wrote:What is it about politicians that do not listen to the victims relatives.

“Do not use our death and our pain to bring the death and pain of other people and other families,” Noy told the hundreds-strong crowd, as the government bombed Gaza and prepared for a massive ground invasion. “I have no doubt that even in the face of Hamas people that murdered him … he would still speak out against the killing and violence of innocent people.”


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/do-not-use-our-pain-to-bring-death-plea-to-israel-from-peace-activists-grieving-families/ar-AA1ivCv0?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=a14fae2e5dd34a98b50e8e462120ee76&ei=9




I'm assuming because there are other relatives with differing views along the lines of 'kill them all, etc.'... :roll:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:31 pm

Kikapu wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:
The “missiles” used by Hamas is nothing more than glorifies firework rockets, which they cause very little damage when they land in Israel,


BBC reporters also say they found small crater and no rocket shells to be able to identify the origin of the rocket.

These links contains images from the site. It doesn't look like there was much damage.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061

https://www.theguardian.com/world/galle ... n-pictures

they way you lot are talking, I thought the whole hospital was blown up, but it was the parking lot.


Max, you are taking my statement on the “missiles” fired by Hamas being nothing more than a glorified fireworks rockets out of context.

Hamas has fired thousands of such rockets over the years into Israel and caused very little damage or injuries. If these rockets are not so devastating when they land in Israel, why would it be so devastating when it hit the Gaza’s hospital compound as suggested by Israel, killing hundreds of people and destroying cars and buildings?

As for the small so called crater without any scorched marks or rocket fragments, it is more than likely a crater from another time.

The fact that Israel stated that there were rockets fired by Hamas from nearby cemetery towards Israel, makes more sense that a patrolling Israeli jet fired a projectile towards the source of the rockets fired from, but hit the hospital compound instead. It was dark, so the pilot of the jet sent something down as close as he thought where the rockets were being fired from, but not close enough in the end, and instead, kills hundreds at the hospital compound.


I am in not trying to defend the IDF here but there is no evidence to implicate the IDF or Hamas. yet.

We can only make assumptions and most people would assume it was Israel. I am not convinced.

I think you will find that any home made fetilizer bomb (big enough) packed with nuts and bolts dropped in their by drone would have torn through all the people in the parking lot and caused the kind of damage we can see to the cars and the facades of the building in the pictures. A rocket is, more sophisticated than this and I think you are underestimating Hamas. They are firing thousands of rockets, this week.

I think you will find that Hamas's rockets do kill people and destroy buildings, Israelis scramble for bomb shelters when the sirens go off, but they have iron dome now which intercepts a lot of rockets.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:46 pm

It doesn't matter, regardless of "facts". Minds were irretrievably made up from the first announcement. Most of them haven't commented (except Lordo, with enthusiastic support - they deserved it) about events at Re'im. Where Hamas killed 260 youngsters. By kill I mean executed. It was a case of aim and pull the trigger. Dead 20 something kid goes down. What credibility do people with that sort of view have? Moral, moronic hypocrites.

In Russia you have Putin shedding crocodile tears about Israel's reaction to the above (plus their other 1100 murdered). "The bombing of innocents has to stop". From a man who has the blood of tens of thousands on his hands and who's army has obliterated umpteen towns. Is it any wonder nobody takes the man seriously in this conflict?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:58 pm

Londonrake wrote:It doesn't matter, regardless of "facts". Minds were irretrievably made up from the first announcement. Most of them haven't commented (except Lordo, with enthusiastic support - they deserved it) about events at Re'im. Where Hamas killed 260 youngsters. By kill I mean executed. It was a case of aim and pull the trigger. Dead 20 something kid goes down. What credibility do people with that sort of hypocritical view have? Moral, moronic hypocrites.

In Russia you have Putin shedding crocodile tears about Israel's reaction to the above (plus their other 1100 murdered). "The bombing of innocents has to stop". From a man who has the blood of tens of thousands on his hands and who's army has obliterated umpteen towns. Is it any wonder nobody takes the man seriously in this conflict?


You can also look closer to home,

Syria's Kurds accuse Turkey of war crimes as Erdogan vows escalation : https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/20 ... escalation
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:00 pm

Israel tells citizens to leave Turkey immediately, fears reprisals: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... l-attacks/

Israel ambassador to Turkey and other diplomats leave the country: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 023-10-19/
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:22 pm

Erdogan is trying to get the US to move their aircraft carrier out of the eastern med.

He wants to send the Turkish navy to Gaza and they have started naval exercises, with the "TRNC" (itself), around the US aircraft carrier to send a message.

WTF?

I could tell he was not happy about that when the US first announced it, because he wants to get involved.

The hypocrite.

The US blew a Turkish drone out of the air over Syria last week. If Erdogan tries his luck, they will blow the Turkish Navy out of the water next week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U47vJ3zwuo
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:31 pm

FFS i leave the forum for a few hours of social activity and the form turns into a Swine Rimming Festival.


What fuckin next. I better not take so much time off in the future, they are liable to die from STD.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:37 pm

You cannot defeat any people by war. There is no weapon stronger than united people having hope to make what they want happen. Israel has not defeated the Palestinians and Turkey has not defeated the Kurds. No matter how many battles they win and damage they cause to innocent civilians and even fighters, they will not win the war.

Once this is over the real world will judge the Swine world very harshly. Harsher than the Nazis.
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