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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:48 am

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:Unfortunately most of the BRICS countries are behind Israel in this instance. It is not easy to go against the most powerful corporations in the world. You cannot step on their toes, they will crush your economy if not militarily.


That’s s because BRICS is at it’s infancy at the moment. Future is another story!

Removing the dollar from being the currency will not affect the power of the corporations. All it will do is cause havoc to the US economy as it will cause a drop in the value of the dollar.

I am not so sure anything can change that much unless the capitalist system is caged. How much they can charge to the public has to be controlled as well as how much profit they make and workers have to be involved in the board meeting where decisions are made so workers interests are protected as well as shareholders bur shareholders should not have power over workers.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:51 pm

Lordo wrote:Removing the dollar from being the currency will not affect the power of the corporations. All it will do is cause havoc to the US economy as it will cause a drop in the value of the dollar.

I am not so sure anything can change that much unless the capitalist system is caged. How much they can charge to the public has to be controlled as well as how much profit they make and workers have to be involved in the board meeting where decisions are made so workers interests are protected as well as shareholders bur shareholders should not have power over workers.


Socialism has never worked anywhere - but hey, perhaps it will be different this time eh...? :roll:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:31 pm

The only way forward is socialism which is why when the SwineCunts were hit with the pandemic they nationalised the whole fuckin country and paid the wages of all people on PAYE, even the fuckin millionaires and of course they saddled the debt onto the working class as the fuckin wealthy do not pay no tax no how.
On the other hand as soon as a private train company fails they nationalise the bugger.

Na wha a mean like mite?

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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:58 pm

Lordo wrote:The only way forward is socialism...


Not wishing to be boringly repetitive but, given Socialism has never worked anywhere, why do you think it will be different this time...? :?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Kikapu » Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:10 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:The only way forward is socialism...


Not wishing to be boringly repetitive but, given Socialism has never worked anywhere, why do you think it will be different this time...? :?

Aside from private businesses, aren’t most other things socialized or subsidized, even in the most capitalist countries? :roll:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:46 pm

Lordo wrote:……….as the fuckin wealthy do not pay no tax no how.


Been busy researching again Lordo? Heaven forbid.

In the UK the top 1% pay 30% of all income tax revenue. That’s the highest it’s been for 30 years. Under these Swinecunt :roll: Conservatives.

That is, three in every ten pounds the government gets comes from about 300,000 people.

Let’s say Labour jack it up, to “squeeze the rich until the pips squeak” and we go back to the good ole Dennis Healey (98%) tax days. Half of them then fuck off to domicile someplace with lower taxes (Ireland?) and multi-millionaire Sir Keir Starmer ends up getting far less than before.

Let’s not allow history and experience to get in the way of Socialism (which is actually far too tame for you anyway) though.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:20 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:The only way forward is socialism...


Not wishing to be boringly repetitive but, given Socialism has never worked anywhere, why do you think it will be different this time...? :?

Aside from private businesses, aren’t most other things socialized or subsidized, even in the most capitalist countries? :roll:

Smart thinking ..... that is why Socialism often does not work ..... anything successful is privatised! :roll:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:58 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:The only way forward is socialism...


Not wishing to be boringly repetitive but, given Socialism has never worked anywhere, why do you think it will be different this time...? :?

Aside from private businesses, aren’t most other things socialized or subsidized, even in the most capitalist countries? :roll:


Indeed some things are... Take the UK as an example...

NHS = shit.
Roads = shit.
Border Control = shit.
Justice system = shit.
HS2 = shit.
Devolution = shit.
Energy provision = shit.

I could go on.... But you get the picture, everything the government gets its hands on turns to shit and costs fortunes... And yet people want even more government involvement in our everyday lives? :shock:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:00 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:The only way forward is socialism...


Not wishing to be boringly repetitive but, given Socialism has never worked anywhere, why do you think it will be different this time...? :?

Aside from private businesses, aren’t most other things socialized or subsidized, even in the most capitalist countries? :roll:

Smart thinking ..... that is why Socialism often does not work ..... anything successful is privatised! :roll:


Or conversely, anything the government touches inevitably turns to shit... And costs fortunes... :roll:

It is the complete lack of accountability see...? :wink:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:07 pm

Doesn't the government running all those things make it a sorta "Police State"?
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