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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:04 pm

Lordo wrote:What is very interesting is the fact that Hamas originally accepted the Oslo Accord where Palestinians would get 22% of the land and the Israelis will get 78% for a two state solution. First Rabin was killed and then of course while Israel was supposedly talking in the peace process they were also giving permission for new settlements. Hence Hamas withdrew the support for the Accord.

So you can see who is being reasonable here.


16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.


20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.


So Hamas accepts the 1967 borders.

But our blood thirsty Swine friends must drink Arab blood.



I think it is Number 7 you are looking for Bordo... :wink:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:25 pm

I don't know how many times it must be said. Hamas accepted the 1967 borders. What did Israel do? Just went on building settlements and taking West Bank land.

What was it SharonCunt said? We must keep the best and give the rest.

Zionists who do not accept 67 borders and their friends on this forum can go to hell.

Did the Zionists ever accept the 67 borders for peace? Like hell they did. They killed fucking Rabin instead so all Swine can fuck off.

You cannot have peace with Israelis and Hellens. Now that is a fact. They wan it all you know what I mean.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:40 pm

Lordo wrote:I don't know how many times it must be said. Hamas accepted the 1967 borders. What did Israel do? Just went on building settlements and taking West Bank land.

What was it SharonCunt said? We must keep the best and give the rest.

Zionists who do not accept 67 borders and their friends on this forum can go to hell.

Did the Zionists ever accept the 67 borders for peace? Like hell they did. They killed fucking Rabin instead so all Swine can fuck off.

You cannot have peace with Israelis and Hellens. Now that is a fact. They wan it all you know what I mean.



You couldn't find Article 7 then? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:18 pm

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You couldn't find Article 7 then? :lol: :lol: :lol:


This is what you need to know ..........

THE ORIGIN OF THE PALESTINE-ISRAEL CONFLICT By Jews for Justice in the Middle East - Published in Berkeley, CA, 2001

As the periodic bloodshed continues in the Middle East, the search for an equitable solution must come to grips with the root cause of the conflict. The conventional wisdom is that, even if both sides are at fault, the Palestinians are irrational “terrorists” who have no point of view worth listening to. Our position, however, is that the Palestinians have a real grievance: their homeland for over a thousand years was taken, without their consent and mostly by force, during the creation of the state of Israel. And all subsequent crimes — on both sides — inevitably follow from this original injustice.

https://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html#1967


HAMAS is dong nothing that Israel has not done before! Remember that the Palestinians in 1948 didn't even have a local defence force but The Zionist terrorists had a modern army including tanks and aircraft ...... the only thing they didn't have was a country of their own! So they took some one else's by force. HAMAS came into existence in late 1987 to counter the Zionists invasion of the Palestinian territories.

So what came first the chicken or the egg?

The above site has an impeccable record for honesty and accuracy.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/if-america-knew/
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:54 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
You couldn't find Article 7 then? :lol: :lol: :lol:


This is what you need to know ..........

THE ORIGIN OF THE PALESTINE-ISRAEL CONFLICT By Jews for Justice in the Middle East - Published in Berkeley, CA, 2001

As the periodic bloodshed continues in the Middle East, the search for an equitable solution must come to grips with the root cause of the conflict. The conventional wisdom is that, even if both sides are at fault, the Palestinians are irrational “terrorists” who have no point of view worth listening to. Our position, however, is that the Palestinians have a real grievance: their homeland for over a thousand years was taken, without their consent and mostly by force, during the creation of the state of Israel. And all subsequent crimes — on both sides — inevitably follow from this original injustice.

https://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html#1967


HAMAS is dong nothing that Israel has not done before! Remember that the Palestinians in 1948 didn't even have a local defence force but The Zionist terrorists had a modern army including tanks and aircraft ...... the only thing they didn't have was a country of their own! So they took some one else's by force. HAMAS came into existence in late 1987 to counter the Zionists invasion of the Palestinian territories.

So what came first the chicken or the egg?

The above site has an impeccable record for honesty and accuracy.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/if-america-knew/


Unlike you! :lol:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:24 pm

When I stated few days ago that Israel would use the recent Hamas attacks on the Israelis to take complete control over Gaza by pushing the Palestinians to the Egyptian border or die if they refused, one or two on here did not agree, that in essence, Israel would never do that. Oh really?

I wonder what they say now?

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13 Oct, 2023 03:42
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Israel orders 1 million Palestinians to leave within 24 hours

All residents of Gaza City may be forced to relocate, according to the UN

The Israeli military has urged over 1 million people to leave their homes in Gaza City and urgently move south. The UN has warned of “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) issued the evacuation order, calling it a “humanitarian step.” It did not mention any specific deadline, with a spokesperson acknowledging it would take “some time.”

“The IDF calls on all residents of Gaza City to evacuate their homes, move south for their protection and settle in the area south of the Gaza River,” the military said in a post on X. “This evacuation is for your personal safety. It will be possible to return to Gaza City only after a notification confirming this.” :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.rt.com/news/584797-israel-e ... rder-gaza/
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:53 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
You couldn't find Article 7 then? :lol: :lol: :lol:


This is what you need to know ..........

THE ORIGIN OF THE PALESTINE-ISRAEL CONFLICT By Jews for Justice in the Middle East - Published in Berkeley, CA, 2001

As the periodic bloodshed continues in the Middle East, the search for an equitable solution must come to grips with the root cause of the conflict. The conventional wisdom is that, even if both sides are at fault, the Palestinians are irrational “terrorists” who have no point of view worth listening to. Our position, however, is that the Palestinians have a real grievance: their homeland for over a thousand years was taken, without their consent and mostly by force, during the creation of the state of Israel. And all subsequent crimes — on both sides — inevitably follow from this original injustice.

https://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html#1967


HAMAS is dong nothing that Israel has not done before! Remember that the Palestinians in 1948 didn't even have a local defence force but The Zionist terrorists had a modern army including tanks and aircraft ...... the only thing they didn't have was a country of their own! So they took some one else's by force. HAMAS came into existence in late 1987 to counter the Zionists invasion of the Palestinian territories.

So what came first the chicken or the egg?

The above site has an impeccable record for honesty and accuracy.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/if-america-knew/

What my Swine friends refused to accept is simply the fact that Arafat and Rabin reached an agreement called Oslo Accord 1 and 11. In it they accepted the division of territory to be 78/22 Israel/Palestine. Even Hamas when they set up accepted the Accord. This new manifesto is the result of what Israel did after the Accord. Instead of implementing the Accord, they keep giving building permissions for settlements to be built in the West Bank. This is the reason why back in 2017 Hamas wrote a new manifesto and demand Palestine back. But they do not say they throw the Jews off their land, they will drive Zionism out of the area.

In reality a unified country will also do where everybody is equal in the eyes of the law. The Zionists intention is to drive the Palestinians from their land. If they have not been able to do it since 1948, they will not be able to do it from in the future too.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Maximus » Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:31 pm

Lordo wrote:In reality a unified country will also do where everybody is equal in the eyes of the law. The Zionists intention is to drive the Palestinians from their land. If they have not been able to do it since 1948, they will not be able to do it from in the future too.


why arent you supporting a bizonal federation with political equality of the two sides and let Israel keep what they stole and maintain the occupation?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:45 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:In reality a unified country will also do where everybody is equal in the eyes of the law. The Zionists intention is to drive the Palestinians from their land. If they have not been able to do it since 1948, they will not be able to do it from in the future too.


why arent you supporting a bizonal federation with political equality of the two sides and let Israel keep what they stole and maintain the occupation?


I can't think of a single issue, across all the years, where this idiot hasn't been a total hypocrite.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:20 pm

What do you know, an assholes convention.

fuck off

Of course needless to say there is a fuckin Swine at the root of this problem too.

The Balfour Declaration was a November 2, 1917 letter from British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Lord Rothschild that made public the British support of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The Balfour Declaration led the League of Nations to entrust the United Kingdom with the Palestine Mandate in 1922.


I hope he rotting in hell and so should all the Swine.

You can kill a man but you cannot kill an idea

Dropping 6000 bombs from the air is only the second cowardly nation on earth. The yanks aare the first.

This is from Palestinians - Korkuyorlar - They are afraid

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