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[Lordo]

The stupidity of the Swine is beyond belief. Couple of things to clear from here.

Hamas are not just people, it is an idea. You can kill all of them but the problem will not go away, it will return bigger. The idea cannot be killed. It will grow in the hearts of all the Palestinians till all 9 million of them join in.

The Yanks thought they got rid of Taliban and they ended up with ISIL. Isil is still about and will morf into something else.

[Maximus]

What you are saying is that the Palestinian people have the same mentality as Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.

I wont believe that to be true and if it is, it explains why they dont have a recognized state yet.

[Maximus]

some news outlet is reporting that the deputy Turkish minister of education replied to a tweet from Netandyahoo saying that one day he will be shot.

The comment has since been deleted.

[cyprusgrump]

The stupidity of the Swine is beyond belief. Couple of things to clear from here.

Hamas are not just people, it is an idea. You can kill all of them but the problem will not go away, it will return bigger. The idea cannot be killed. It will grow in the hearts of all the Palestinians till all 9 million of them join in.

The Yanks thought they got rid of Taliban and they ended up with ISIL. Isil is still about and will morf into something else.

The 'idea' is that Israel can be destroyed and all the Jews killed...

You would hope that the ordinary people would eventually realise that this 'idea' brings them nothing but pain and demand new elections - Hamas hasn't legitimately held power since 2010 I believe...?

[Maximus]

There is immediate relief to the blockaid on Gaza if Hamas was willing to release the hostages.

If Hamas cared for the people in Gaza, they would release the hostages and also request a ceasefire from Israel too.

[cyprusgrump]

There is immediate relief to the blockaid on Gaza if Hamas was willing to release the hostages.

If Hamas cared for the people in Gaza, they would release the hostages and also request a ceasefire from Israel too.

Sadly they care nothing for the people apart from their use as a human shield - they have ordered them to stay in their homes even though an invasion is inevitable...

[Maximus]

There is immediate relief to the blockaid on Gaza if Hamas was willing to release the hostages.

If Hamas cared for the people in Gaza, they would release the hostages and also request a ceasefire from Israel too.

Sadly they care nothing for the people apart from their use as a human shield - they have ordered them to stay in their homes even though an invasion is inevitable...

Seeing it from the Palestinian perspective, this could also be an attempt by Israel to cleanse the land, expand the occupation and then move in more settlers.

Israel is not entirely innocent in the grand scheme of things.

[Lordo]

What is very interesting is the fact that Hamas originally accepted the Oslo Accord where Palestinians would get 22% of the land and the Israelis will get 78% for a two state solution. First Rabin was killed and then of course while Israel was supposedly talking in the peace process they were also giving permission for new settlements. Hence Hamas withdrew the support for the Accord.

So you can see who is being reasonable here.

16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.

So Hamas accepts the 1967 borders.

But our blood thirsty Swine friends must drink Arab blood.

[Maximus]

I would not say Hamas is reasonable Bordo, they are a terrorist organization.

You think the Turkish Cypriots are reasonable but no one (except Turkey) even recognizes you.

[Lordo]

In life when you have a record that is stuck on the turntable is normally scratched and not worth listening to so it must be disposed of in an environmentally friendly way. It would be unfair to just chuck them on the scrapheap. They must have some use in life.