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[Londonrake]

What else does the ICJ need to see to act against all Zionists, Israel, Fishy, Biden and Fackron and fuckin Scholz.

This is disgrace for humanity.

Amazing how they can only ever find pictures of dead/injured children and never Hamas fighters... Perhaps they have all run away...?

The data are supplied by Hamas and are full of, sometimes ridiculous, anomalies. They're to an extent fabricated and not to be taken at face value. Particularly the disproportionate casualty figures for women and children.

Since Oct 7th and Israel's - totally underestimated - reaction, Hamas's most potent weapon has been the PR afforded by dead and suffering Palestinians. The more vulnerable the better. Everything the organisation's done has displayed their total contempt for the people they're supposedly guardians of. From the siphoning off of hundreds of millions in "aid" money, to be used in the manufacture of a sophisticated tunnel network, larger than the London underground, including major access points being incorporated into sensitive civilian buildings, to the mass manufacture of thousands of rockets to be fired indiscriminately at Israeli population centers. Often from within the bounds of the likes of Mosques/Hospitals/Civilian complexes. It's clearly been their policy to hide and fight from within the population, ensuring maximum danger to Palestinian civilians. All that, whilst many of the Hamas senior commanders remained safely esconsed in luxury Qatari/Dubai hotels.

A ceasefire will be celebrated in Gaza as a great victory - as has happened in the past. There will be pictures of kids waving flags, brandishing AK47s and much dancing in (what's left of) the streets.

I doubt the Israelis are willing to settle for that. Whatever the international pressure applied. They will want a cast iron assurance that Israel will never again suffer an event like Oct 7th.

[Lordo]

Interesting that the whole world is unable to help. What fucking good is their weapons if they allow such horrors to take place.

[Lordo]

There you have it folks.

THE HAGUE (Reuters) - Israel has asked the International Court of Justice (ICJ) not to issue emergency orders for it to step up humanitarian aid to Gaza to address a looming famine, dismissing South Africa's request to do so as "morally repugnant".

In a legal filing to the United Nations' top court, made public on Monday, Israel said it "has real concern for the humanitarian situation and innocent lives, as demonstrated by the actions it has and is taking" in Gaza during the war.

They actually believe this shit and no doubt as do the three fuckin low life SwineCunts here.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israel-asks-world-court-not-to-order-new-measures-over-gaza-hunger/ar-BB1k6qFR?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=8f33515ad875412e8fc12eb53abcd45d&ei=13

[Lordo]

So much for destruction of North and Central Gaza and destroying Hamas there. It seems Hamas is fighting in these areas to this day.

The fuckin cowards would not dare attack Hamas in the tunnels. Some fuckin fighting force they are.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israel-s-shifa-raid-shows-its-grip-is-slipping-as-a-forever-war-looms/ar-BB1k6DvJ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=c340812bf1fc40b1ae065a82a56d0d52&ei=46

[Robin Hood]

What else does the ICJ need to see to act against all Zionists, Israel, Fishy, Biden and Fackron and fuckin Scholz.

This is disgrace for humanity.

Amazing how they can only ever find pictures of dead/injured children and never Hamas fighters... Perhaps they have all run away...?

The data are supplied by Hamas and are full of, sometimes ridiculous, anomalies. They're to an extent fabricated and not to be taken at face value. Particularly the disproportionate casualty figures for women and children.

Since Oct 7th and Israel's - totally underestimated - reaction, Hamas's most potent weapon has been the PR afforded by dead and suffering Palestinians. The more vulnerable the better. Everything the organisation's done has displayed their total contempt for the people they're supposedly guardians of. From the siphoning off of hundreds of millions in "aid" money, to be used in the manufacture of a sophisticated tunnel network, larger than the London underground, including major access points being incorporated into sensitive civilian buildings, to the mass manufacture of thousands of rockets to be fired indiscriminately at Israeli population centers. Often from within the bounds of the likes of Mosques/Hospitals/Civilian complexes. It's clearly been their policy to hide and fight from within the population, ensuring maximum danger to Palestinian civilians. All that, whilst many of the Hamas senior commanders remained safely esconsed in luxury Qatari/Dubai hotels.

A ceasefire will be celebrated in Gaza as a great victory - as has happened in the past. There will be pictures of kids waving flags, brandishing AK47s and much dancing in (what's left of) the streets.

I doubt the Israelis are willing to settle for that. Whatever the international pressure applied. They will want a cast iron assurance that Israel will never again suffer an event like Oct 7th.

WELL ...... NOW we know who you stand with!

The PR war has been Israels triumph, not really a surprise as the MSM is owned in the main by the Zionists ...... and it is clear from your latest post that it works with you!

Was the attack on 7th Oct not a demonstration of the Palestinians right to self defence?

Are you saying that the UN and all these aid agencies have got the number of Palestinians killed wrong? (Now over 32.000)

Are you saying the 70% of those deaths being women and children, is wrong too?

There is as much between your ears as there is in CG's bucket!

[cyprusgrump]

What else does the ICJ need to see to act against all Zionists, Israel, Fishy, Biden and Fackron and fuckin Scholz.

This is disgrace for humanity.

Amazing how they can only ever find pictures of dead/injured children and never Hamas fighters... Perhaps they have all run away...?

The data are supplied by Hamas and are full of, sometimes ridiculous, anomalies. They're to an extent fabricated and not to be taken at face value. Particularly the disproportionate casualty figures for women and children.

Since Oct 7th and Israel's - totally underestimated - reaction, Hamas's most potent weapon has been the PR afforded by dead and suffering Palestinians. The more vulnerable the better. Everything the organisation's done has displayed their total contempt for the people they're supposedly guardians of. From the siphoning off of hundreds of millions in "aid" money, to be used in the manufacture of a sophisticated tunnel network, larger than the London underground, including major access points being incorporated into sensitive civilian buildings, to the mass manufacture of thousands of rockets to be fired indiscriminately at Israeli population centers. Often from within the bounds of the likes of Mosques/Hospitals/Civilian complexes. It's clearly been their policy to hide and fight from within the population, ensuring maximum danger to Palestinian civilians. All that, whilst many of the Hamas senior commanders remained safely esconsed in luxury Qatari/Dubai hotels.

A ceasefire will be celebrated in Gaza as a great victory - as has happened in the past. There will be pictures of kids waving flags, brandishing AK47s and much dancing in (what's left of) the streets.

I doubt the Israelis are willing to settle for that. Whatever the international pressure applied. They will want a cast iron assurance that Israel will never again suffer an event like Oct 7th.

WELL ...... NOW we know who you stand with!

The PR war has been Israels triumph, not really a surprise as the MSM is owned in the main by the Zionists ...... and it is clear from your latest post that it works with you!

Was the attack on 7th Oct not a demonstration of the Palestinians right to self defence?

Are you saying that the UN and all these aid agencies have got the number of Palestinians killed wrong? (Now over 32.000)

Are you saying the 70% of those deaths being women and children, is wrong too?

There is as much between your ears as there is in CG's bucket!

the 32,000/70% thing is blatant Hamas propaganda...

They literally plucked a number out of the air, claim it is the same number every day and that 70% are women and children... If you plot these 'deaths' on a graph it is a straight line...

Who would believe such rubbish? Oh, you did...

[Robin Hood]

the 32,000/70% thing is blatant Hamas propaganda...

They literally plucked a number out of the air, claim it is the same number every day and that 70% are women and children... If you plot these 'deaths' on a graph it is a straight line...

Who would believe such rubbish? Oh, you did...

Where do you and RAKE get your statistics from? The Zionist controlled press ...... just like I said and your post proves it! The probability is that the Gaza Health Ministry figures of the number of dead are an underestimate!

Try NPR for information ....... their fact check rating is HIGH.

Gaza's death toll now exceeds 30,000. Here's why it's an incomplete count ........ Aya Batrawy FEBRUARY 29, 2024

Thousands missing beneath rubble are not included in the official count.....

Quote:

Relatives say Abusaeid's husband, Iyad, her brother, Mahmoud, her son, Ziyad, and three other children in the family are still missing under the rubble. Their bodies were never recovered.

Deaths like theirs are mostly excluded from the health ministry's casualty figures. Around seven weeks into the war the Gaza health ministry said at least 6,800 people were missing under the rubble. That figure has not been officially updated since. ,(Dec 2023) The latest reports only say that "a large number of victims are still under the rubble and on the roads."

Quote:

Gaza's official toll largely leaves out deaths from indirect war impacts — and some important details.... Anas Baba contributed to this report from Rafah, the Gaza Strip.

An analysis published in the Lancet medical journal in December found that Gaza's health ministry has "historically reported accurate mortality data," with discrepancies between 1% and roughly 3% when compared with U.N. analysis of deaths in previous conflicts. The study found "no evidence of inflated rates" in the current war and noted that difficulties in obtaining accurate death counts "should not be interpreted as intentionally misreported data."

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30000-palestinians-israel-hamas-war

I tend to find sources like the above and journalists like Jonathan Cook to have far more credibility than the sources you rely on !

OH! it appears you don’t have sources do you? So like RAKE what you preach is all just the opinion you form from the MSM reports ...... like ..... echo’s from ‘inside-the-bucket’ and of course, Israeli Zionist Spokespeople on BBC and SKY News!

Torture, Executions, Babies Left to Die, Sexual Abuse… These Are Israel’s Crimes Jonathan Cook • March 16, 2024 • 2,200 words

Why is the same western media obsessively reheating five-month-old allegations against Hamas so reluctant to focus on Israel’s current, horrifying atrocities? Hostages tortured to death. Parents executed in front of their children. Doctors beaten. Babies murdered. Sexual assault weaponised.

No, not Hamas crimes. This is part of an ever-growing list of documented atrocities committed by Israel in the five months since 7 October – quite separate from the carpet bombing of 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza and a famine induced by Israel’s obstruction of aid.

Last week, an investigation by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz disclosed that some 27 Palestinians seized off Gaza’s streets over the past five months are known to have died during interrogations inside Israel.

The full article ...............

https://www.unz.com/jcook/torture-executions-babies-left-to-die-sexual-abuse-these-are-israels-crimes/

[cyprusgrump]

the 32,000/70% thing is blatant Hamas propaganda...

They literally plucked a number out of the air, claim it is the same number every day and that 70% are women and children... If you plot these 'deaths' on a graph it is a straight line...

Who would believe such rubbish? Oh, you did...

Where do you and RAKE get your statistics from? The Zionist controlled press ...... just like I said and your post proves it! The probability is that the Gaza Health Ministry figures of the number of dead are an underestimate!

Try NPR for information ....... their fact check rating is HIGH.

Gaza's death toll now exceeds 30,000. Here's why it's an incomplete count ........ Aya Batrawy FEBRUARY 29, 2024

Thousands missing beneath rubble are not included in the official count.....

Quote:

Relatives say Abusaeid's husband, Iyad, her brother, Mahmoud, her son, Ziyad, and three other children in the family are still missing under the rubble. Their bodies were never recovered.

Deaths like theirs are mostly excluded from the health ministry's casualty figures. Around seven weeks into the war the Gaza health ministry said at least 6,800 people were missing under the rubble. That figure has not been officially updated since. ,(Dec 2023) The latest reports only say that "a large number of victims are still under the rubble and on the roads."

Quote:

Gaza's official toll largely leaves out deaths from indirect war impacts — and some important details.... Anas Baba contributed to this report from Rafah, the Gaza Strip.

An analysis published in the Lancet medical journal in December found that Gaza's health ministry has "historically reported accurate mortality data," with discrepancies between 1% and roughly 3% when compared with U.N. analysis of deaths in previous conflicts. The study found "no evidence of inflated rates" in the current war and noted that difficulties in obtaining accurate death counts "should not be interpreted as intentionally misreported data."

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30000-palestinians-israel-hamas-war

I tend to find sources like the above and journalists like Jonathan Cook to have far more credibility than the sources you rely on !

OH! it appears you don’t have sources do you? So like RAKE what you preach is all just the opinion you form from the MSM reports ...... like ..... echo’s from ‘inside-the-bucket’ and of course, Israeli Zionist Spokespeople on BBC and SKY News!

Torture, Executions, Babies Left to Die, Sexual Abuse… These Are Israel’s Crimes Jonathan Cook • March 16, 2024 • 2,200 words

Why is the same western media obsessively reheating five-month-old allegations against Hamas so reluctant to focus on Israel’s current, horrifying atrocities? Hostages tortured to death. Parents executed in front of their children. Doctors beaten. Babies murdered. Sexual assault weaponised.

No, not Hamas crimes. This is part of an ever-growing list of documented atrocities committed by Israel in the five months since 7 October – quite separate from the carpet bombing of 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza and a famine induced by Israel’s obstruction of aid.

Last week, an investigation by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz disclosed that some 27 Palestinians seized off Gaza’s streets over the past five months are known to have died during interrogations inside Israel.

The full article ...............

https://www.unz.com/jcook/torture-executions-babies-left-to-die-sexual-abuse-these-are-israels-crimes/

Believe what you like RH, the numbers simply don't add up...

Expert claims Hamas's Gaza death toll exaggerated or faked

Wyner pointed out inconsistencies between Hamas's own admissions of casualties among its fighters and the data provided by the Gaza Health Ministry

[Robin Hood]

the 32,000/70% thing is blatant Hamas propaganda...

They literally plucked a number out of the air, claim it is the same number every day and that 70% are women and children... If you plot these 'deaths' on a graph it is a straight line...

Who would believe such rubbish? Oh, you did...

Where do you and RAKE get your statistics from? The Zionist controlled press ...... just like I said and your post proves it! The probability is that the Gaza Health Ministry figures of the number of dead are an underestimate!

Try NPR for information ....... their fact check rating is HIGH.

Gaza's death toll now exceeds 30,000. Here's why it's an incomplete count ........ Aya Batrawy FEBRUARY 29, 2024

Thousands missing beneath rubble are not included in the official count.....

Quote:

Relatives say Abusaeid's husband, Iyad, her brother, Mahmoud, her son, Ziyad, and three other children in the family are still missing under the rubble. Their bodies were never recovered.

Deaths like theirs are mostly excluded from the health ministry's casualty figures. Around seven weeks into the war the Gaza health ministry said at least 6,800 people were missing under the rubble. That figure has not been officially updated since. ,(Dec 2023) The latest reports only say that "a large number of victims are still under the rubble and on the roads."

Quote:

Gaza's official toll largely leaves out deaths from indirect war impacts — and some important details.... Anas Baba contributed to this report from Rafah, the Gaza Strip.

An analysis published in the Lancet medical journal in December found that Gaza's health ministry has "historically reported accurate mortality data," with discrepancies between 1% and roughly 3% when compared with U.N. analysis of deaths in previous conflicts. The study found "no evidence of inflated rates" in the current war and noted that difficulties in obtaining accurate death counts "should not be interpreted as intentionally misreported data."

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30000-palestinians-israel-hamas-war

I tend to find sources like the above and journalists like Jonathan Cook to have far more credibility than the sources you rely on !

OH! it appears you don’t have sources do you? So like RAKE what you preach is all just the opinion you form from the MSM reports ...... like ..... echo’s from ‘inside-the-bucket’ and of course, Israeli Zionist Spokespeople on BBC and SKY News!

Torture, Executions, Babies Left to Die, Sexual Abuse… These Are Israel’s Crimes Jonathan Cook • March 16, 2024 • 2,200 words

Why is the same western media obsessively reheating five-month-old allegations against Hamas so reluctant to focus on Israel’s current, horrifying atrocities? Hostages tortured to death. Parents executed in front of their children. Doctors beaten. Babies murdered. Sexual assault weaponised.

No, not Hamas crimes. This is part of an ever-growing list of documented atrocities committed by Israel in the five months since 7 October – quite separate from the carpet bombing of 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza and a famine induced by Israel’s obstruction of aid.

Last week, an investigation by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz disclosed that some 27 Palestinians seized off Gaza’s streets over the past five months are known to have died during interrogations inside Israel.

The full article ...............

https://www.unz.com/jcook/torture-executions-babies-left-to-die-sexual-abuse-these-are-israels-crimes/

Believe what you like RH, the numbers simply don't add up...

Expert claims Hamas's Gaza death toll exaggerated or faked

Wyner pointed out inconsistencies between Hamas's own admissions of casualties among its fighters and the data provided by the Gaza Health Ministry

That is a good impartial source! i24 ...... is a US based Israel news outlet that has a right wing bias and can only make a MEDIUM rating for accuracy and honesty in fact check.

I'll stick with the more credible sources!

[cyprusgrump]

the 32,000/70% thing is blatant Hamas propaganda...

They literally plucked a number out of the air, claim it is the same number every day and that 70% are women and children... If you plot these 'deaths' on a graph it is a straight line...

Who would believe such rubbish? Oh, you did...

Where do you and RAKE get your statistics from? The Zionist controlled press ...... just like I said and your post proves it! The probability is that the Gaza Health Ministry figures of the number of dead are an underestimate!

Try NPR for information ....... their fact check rating is HIGH.

Gaza's death toll now exceeds 30,000. Here's why it's an incomplete count ........ Aya Batrawy FEBRUARY 29, 2024

Thousands missing beneath rubble are not included in the official count.....

Quote:

Relatives say Abusaeid's husband, Iyad, her brother, Mahmoud, her son, Ziyad, and three other children in the family are still missing under the rubble. Their bodies were never recovered.

Deaths like theirs are mostly excluded from the health ministry's casualty figures. Around seven weeks into the war the Gaza health ministry said at least 6,800 people were missing under the rubble. That figure has not been officially updated since. ,(Dec 2023) The latest reports only say that "a large number of victims are still under the rubble and on the roads."

Quote:

Gaza's official toll largely leaves out deaths from indirect war impacts — and some important details.... Anas Baba contributed to this report from Rafah, the Gaza Strip.

An analysis published in the Lancet medical journal in December found that Gaza's health ministry has "historically reported accurate mortality data," with discrepancies between 1% and roughly 3% when compared with U.N. analysis of deaths in previous conflicts. The study found "no evidence of inflated rates" in the current war and noted that difficulties in obtaining accurate death counts "should not be interpreted as intentionally misreported data."

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30000-palestinians-israel-hamas-war

I tend to find sources like the above and journalists like Jonathan Cook to have far more credibility than the sources you rely on !

OH! it appears you don’t have sources do you? So like RAKE what you preach is all just the opinion you form from the MSM reports ...... like ..... echo’s from ‘inside-the-bucket’ and of course, Israeli Zionist Spokespeople on BBC and SKY News!

Torture, Executions, Babies Left to Die, Sexual Abuse… These Are Israel’s Crimes Jonathan Cook • March 16, 2024 • 2,200 words

Why is the same western media obsessively reheating five-month-old allegations against Hamas so reluctant to focus on Israel’s current, horrifying atrocities? Hostages tortured to death. Parents executed in front of their children. Doctors beaten. Babies murdered. Sexual assault weaponised.

No, not Hamas crimes. This is part of an ever-growing list of documented atrocities committed by Israel in the five months since 7 October – quite separate from the carpet bombing of 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza and a famine induced by Israel’s obstruction of aid.

Last week, an investigation by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz disclosed that some 27 Palestinians seized off Gaza’s streets over the past five months are known to have died during interrogations inside Israel.

The full article ...............

https://www.unz.com/jcook/torture-executions-babies-left-to-die-sexual-abuse-these-are-israels-crimes/

Believe what you like RH, the numbers simply don't add up...

Expert claims Hamas's Gaza death toll exaggerated or faked

Wyner pointed out inconsistencies between Hamas's own admissions of casualties among its fighters and the data provided by the Gaza Health Ministry

That is a good impartial source! i24 ...... is a US based Israel news outlet that has a right wing bias and can only make a MEDIUM rating for accuracy and honesty in fact check.

I'll stick with the more credible sources!

Well, well, well... Who would have thought you would dismiss the whole report based on the source just like that...?*










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