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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:46 am

Robin Hood wrote:
BTW: You have never substantiated your claim that a reference to Zionists or Zionism is nothing more than a derogatory term for Jews, have you? In all those years you have denied that Zionists actually exist at all ..... except in my mind. How about demonstrating your knowledge on the subject and tell us where this 'derogatory term' came from? Then your inane ramblings on something you obviously have little knowledge of, would at least give you a bit of credibility. :roll:



This is a bit rich coming from someone that lost all of his on the Twin Towers thread if you don't mind me saying so... :wink:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:49 am

Lordo wrote:Very Interesting phone call today on London Bullshit Corporation.

Call after call Hamas calling to defend that Hamas is ok to kill 0ver 15 000 children but one was particularly disturbing. This Palestinian claimed that Jews have too many children, so perhaps they should be castrated.

It is a fact that when one calls the one asked what one will say, add to that the show is on a 10 second delay so if they wish they can cut the call, What was interesting was the fact that this Palestinian was first of all allowed to speak despite saying what he was going to say, was allowed to say it so it was not cut off and then the presenter told him he cannot say that on the air and cut his call.

Fuckin hell, I knew Hamas did a lot of what Nazis did but I did not realise they harboured castration of the Jews.



There, edited it to something more acceptable to your beliefs... :wink:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:11 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:37 pm

Here is that conversation on the London Bullshit Corporation where a Zionists claimed that Gazans are driving themselves to poverty by having too many children and the presenter mentioning snipping.

It is 2:57 minutes in so you have to fast forward it.

https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/BUoPziarJwZ5MVTaiS8jfEq4P/

Earlier Ferrari claiming that "From the River to the Sea, Palestinians are free" means eradication of Jews from Israel and genocidal tendencies.

Two examples here.
When the Nazis were eradicated from Germany how many Germans were killed that were not Nazis and actually committed crimes against Humanity during the war.
The second example is when South African Regime was eradicated, how many white South Africans were killed or even lost their livelihoods?

When Palestinians talk about "From the River to the Sea the Palestinians Will Be Free" means exactly what it says on the tin. They will be able to return to their land and homes they were thrown out of all the way back in 1948. And if their land was confiscated and given to others, then they have to ne returned. Is that too much to ask?

And of course the phrase itself is important because it was first said by Likud back in 1977.

The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." Similar wording, such as referring to the area "west of the Jordan river", has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians, including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on 18 January 2024. Some countries have considered criminalizing use of the phrase.


And yet nobody called the phrase genocidal when Zionists used it as late as this January. He even held a map where there was on Palestinian territories shown on the map when talking about trade routes from the east to the west.
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Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:45 pm

This gets even more interesting. Why did Starmer need to consult with with Herzog before lobbying the House Speaker about the Gaza Ceasefire motion. Is this not treason?
Another question is why did SNP and the government put their own motion through after all there was option for two motions?
Not forgetting that this was SNP led so their motion should have been presented.

What difference will it make in the end as the vote is not even binding and can be ignored?

Anybody? The Usual Swine need not respond.

MintPress News on Instagram: "Labour leader Keir Starmer has admitted speaking with Israeli President Isaac Herzog before lobbying the Speaker of the House to help ruin the SNP ceasefire motion on Gaza."


https://www.reddit.com/r/Labour/comments/1axfknd/mintpress_news_on_instagram_labour_leader_keir/
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Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:27 pm

So it seems the reason for the Speaker not to follow procure and allow the motion for an immediate ceasefire is in some way fighting extremism. How long has it been extremism to ask people to stop fighting?
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Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:16 pm

Lordo wrote:So it seems the reason for the Speaker not to follow procedure and allow the motion for an immediate ceasefire is in some way fighting extremism. How long has it been extremism to ask people to stop fighting?


Flamin spell checker, honestly.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:30 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
BTW: You have never substantiated your claim that a reference to Zionists or Zionism is nothing more than a derogatory term for Jews, have you? In all those years you have denied that Zionists actually exist at all ..... except in my mind. How about demonstrating your knowledge on the subject and tell us where this 'derogatory term' came from? Then your inane ramblings on something you obviously have little knowledge of, would at least give you a bit of credibility. :roll:


This is a bit rich coming from someone that lost all of his on the Twin Towers thread if you don't mind me saying so... :wink:


Maybe a bit too detailed and complex for you to understand but things have progressed since the time you were convinced by the 'official' 9/11 explanation that came out a few weeks after the event. Since then people have learned to question ..... well some people! Those with buckets on their head and their head/bucket up their arse probably missed the updates?

9/11 Was an Israeli Job - How America was neoconned into World War IV

LAURENT GUYÉNOT • SEPTEMBER 10, 2018 • 8,500 WORDS

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Inside Job or Mossad Job?

Among the growing number of Americans who disbelieve the official version of the 9/11 attacks, two basic theories are in competition: I called them “inside job” and “Mossad job”.

The first one is the dominant thesis within the so-called 9/11 Truth movement, and blames the American government, or a faction within the American Deep State. The second one claims that the masterminds were members of a powerful Israeli network deeply infiltrated in all spheres of power within the US, including media, government, military and secret services.

This “Mossad job” thesis has been gaining ground since Alan Sabrosky, a professor at the U.S. Army War College and the U.S. Military Academy, published in July 2012 an article entitled “Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake”, where he voiced his conviction that September 11th was “a classic Mossad-orchestrated operation.”

https://www.unz.com/article/911-was-an-israeli-job/
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:42 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
BTW: You have never substantiated your claim that a reference to Zionists or Zionism is nothing more than a derogatory term for Jews, have you? In all those years you have denied that Zionists actually exist at all ..... except in my mind. How about demonstrating your knowledge on the subject and tell us where this 'derogatory term' came from? Then your inane ramblings on something you obviously have little knowledge of, would at least give you a bit of credibility. :roll:


This is a bit rich coming from someone that lost all of his on the Twin Towers thread if you don't mind me saying so... :wink:


Maybe a bit too detailed and complex for you to understand but things have progressed since the time you were convinced by the 'official' 9/11 explanation that came out a few weeks after the event. Since then people have learned to question ..... well some people! Those with buckets on their head and their head/bucket up their arse probably missed the updates?


Yes of course... :roll:

What you are well aware I am referring to is that our self-proclaimed 'expert' on 9/11 (that's you) couldn't even get the amount of fuel on the aircraft to within a few thousand gallons... :?

...multiple different answers on the same page! :lol:

Credibility = none :wink:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:30 pm

This needs explaining. it may be that they knew about it and were watching deliberately or that they just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Why dancing can be explained, they just realised that America was going to back Israel right up their arse. After all late 1990s there was a bit of a problem with America trying to force Israel to accept a two state solution.

THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis - and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12768362.five-israelis-were-seen-filming-as-jet-liners-ploughed-into-the-twin-towers-on-september-11-2001/

and this from the Jewish Chronicle no less.

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/who-were-the-dancing-israelis-of-9-11-c7f9b960
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