Robin Hood wrote:LR said .......
No rational person's fooled by the use of "Zionists". It's just a euphemism for Jews. A way of avoiding comparisons with the historical persecution and slaughter of millions of Jewish people throughout history. To which there is no reasonable answer
I posted an explanation, with a link, that showed your expressed opinion was clearly incorrect. Judaism and Jews have virtually no direct association with Zionism. I can declare myself to be a Zionist even easier than it is to declare myself to be a woman! As the saying goes “
Not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists.” The link also clearly defines that criticism of Zionists and Zionism is most definitely NOT anti-Semitism. So that is something else you got wrong!
instead of a credible reply or counter claim, in return I get a typical LR type response ! Several paragraphs of unrelated waffle!
You avoid any reference to the thread content, my link or explanation and go off into a world of your perceptions and then attack me with unrelated verbal crap. Again it is all about you and your opinion.
BTW:
LORDO posted a copy of the Balfour Declaration ......... or do you want to argue with that as well? Read it carefully and one thing is obvious! Had the Zionists stuck to the terms of the declaration we would not have the problems we have today. But they didn’t, in fact Zionists never do stick to agreements! Zionist do what they want to do, what is in their interests and everyone else can lump it.
That is what they did in 1948. Instead of just accepting the land as per the UN Plan ....... they decided they wanted more! They drove those living there off their ancestral lands by force (Balfour ???) with no right of return and they have never stopped doing it. The Zionists declared it was a “...
.Land without people for a people without land.” More lies and distortion of the reality ...... but they get ‘
mongs’ like you to believe all their crap !
What we are seeing now was all planned by the Zionists over a hundred and fifty years ago ..........
I say with genuine regret. There really is no civilised discourse to be had with you and it strikes me, with long experience, that there never really has been. Whatever the issue. You simply can't tolerate anybody who disagrees with you and who won't be constrained by your attempts to control the limits of a discussion to that which suit you. Although, you're happy to accept absolutely any "Swinecunt" of a moron as long as they do. Thus is the measure of your position.
It doesn't take long at all before you start throwing in the slurs and insults. Then, when you get back as good as you give, blame the other party and there's the inevitable reversion to "victimhood". In the past, followed by pathetic attempts to wind third parties up - in order to do your dirty work - or, writing poison pen communications to people.
I've followed your posts on this issue over many years, when it's periodically cropped up, with your paper-thin cover of "Zionists". The problem you've always had hasn't been with that, it's far more fundamental. The State of Israel. In that respect you're an anti-semite to the core. Here, what happened on Oct 7th was either a cunning plot by Israel (the usual Conspiracy Theory) or - let's go total moronic - didn't have anything to do with Hamas.
With 1200 Israelis murdered in the most brutal manner and 253 abducted their reaction is it seems horrifyingly over-the-top
. A complete shock to everyone. This, from someone who was quite happy with "
The Ukranians poked the bear. What did they expect?" Rahh, rahh, go, go Russia! That, followed to date by many thousands dead - in the hundreds of thousands if you include both sides military losses - whole Ukranian population centres completely obliterated and millions forced to flee their homes or country. All, despite not a single Ukranian soldier having set foot in Russia. But you're quite happy with that of course. Wrong expression. Supportive wouldn't be an exaggeration. You really couldn't give a shit about Ukranians.
Always the same MO. I've seen it time and time again. You ignore absolutely any points which are "awkward" (WTC), no matter how central to the issue. Then you complain bitterly if you perceive others doing the same to you, You try to corral the discussion into an area of your choice. Dragging the poor victim down into the long grass, there to be suffocated, usually with reams of trivia. In that respect I've seen you drive a number of people off forums. Good, long-term members. Then, gloat over how you "shot them down". That's really why you were booted. You can trust me on that.
The issue of the establishment and survival of Israel is long and complex. You could go back thousands of years and - of course - there's the Holocaust and the combined guilt that humanity felt for those events. They've always been surrounded by enemies and on many occasions attacked, since you and I - decrepit old fogies now - were early primary school pupils. In 1948 by 5 of them, no less. Egypt and Jordan have come to terms with Israel. Saudi and other ME Arab countries were set to. Unlike most of the West these days the Israelis don't suffer any crap and (despite Lordo's laughable 600 Hamas/1600 IDF delusions) if you take them on you had better be ready for a lot of pain. Funny, I thought you would admire that.
Another thing you can trust me on - they have very formidable armed forces. As witnessed by Hezbollah's current posture and the fact that all of Hamas's "friends" are being very careful to stay out of it. Apart from things like the UN and ICC- which you've never hesitated to denigrate when their edicts go against your agenda.
You've never had a problem when Iranians at the highest level have made such proclamations as
"Eventually war will break out and Iran will eradicate the cancerous tumour of Israel". No comment. And - of course - you don't have any personal problems with Jews per se (very Germany 1930s).
FWIW, I've spent some time in Israel. It's an amazing country. Agriculturally lush. High tech industries. Culturally sophisticated. Blah, blah. All of that, from what was basically, when we were babs in naps, a desert shit hole.
Lordo's a moron, with a form of forum Tourettes. Currently sharpening his cut 'n' paste skills (you can tell). Although, apart from RW throwing him the odd bone, it's all, as normal, being met with the usual disinterest. You rarely seem to comment on his efforts.
Perhaps all the "Swinecunt" stuff is a bit much, even for you?
Have to say - FFS - on this thread he can't even spell his principle villain's name - Netanyahu.
