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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:10 pm

Despite the fact that toughest action has been taken, the only hostage released was on medical grounds but the old cunt still believes that he can fight into releasing the hostages.

There is only one way to release hostages and that is a ceasefire so all hostages can be released whether they are Israeli or Palestinian.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:23 pm

Lordo wrote:Despite the fact that toughest action has been taken, the only hostage released was on medical grounds but the old cunt still believes that he can fight into releasing the hostages.

There is only one way to release hostages and that is a ceasefire so all hostages can be released whether they are Israeli or Palestinian.


In their past conflagrations Hamas have celebrated ceasefires as great victories. Vindication of their actions. We've seen the Palestinians dancing in the streets. Children pictured brandishing assault rifles.

I said at the very beginning of all this that after what happened on Oct 7th the Israelis would be unlikely to stop until this was resolved, regardless of what anybody thinks (least of all the talking shop in NY). Given their latest ultimatum, I suspect I was right. Hamas made a big miscalculation with 7th October and the idea - whatever survives of them - are likely to mount a similar event is unlikely to happen until long after we are all pushing up daisies. If ever.

Interesting to see that not only are none of Hamas's "friends" actually doing anything significant to help but the Egyptians are building a massive wall to contain any Palestinian overspill from the threatened Israeli Ramadan assault on Rafah. It comes down to nobody actually seems to want the Palestinians. They've been thrown out of Jordan (Arafat claimed 25000 of them killed there in "Black September"), Lebanon and I think Tunisia for causing internal and external problems. Even up to causing civil war.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:40 pm

...like Putin, Netanyahu is a War Criminal. So too, who directs Hamas' murderous way.

Without imagination, something beyond "This" these men are unwilling to change themselves.

...fear, overcoming the fear they have within themselves is not their intentions, serving a mythic dogma is.

And so it is anyone of them may gain Fame, from us the rest of the world our esteem instead of infamy by ending "It".
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:11 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...like Putin, Netanyahu is a War Criminal. So too, who directs Hamas' murderous way.

Without imagination, something beyond "This" these men are unwilling to change themselves.

...fear, overcoming the fear they have within themselves is not their intentions, serving a mythic dogma is.

And so it is anyone of them may gain Fame, from us the rest of the world our esteem instead of infamy by ending "It".

RW have you seen anything I posted in the last few days?

Are you really blaming Hamas for all the killings on 7th October. Where is the evidence? Just because Israel said so? Pull the other one mate. To claim anything you have to show evidence.

Even Regev admitted that they had confused 200 Hamas fighters that were burnt as Israeli which is why they revised the figures down to 1200.

Who else were in the buildings that the Diaper Army fired their tanks and helicopters at? FFS RW keep with the news.

Evidence Israel killed its own
Regev’s statement is a significant addition to the mounting evidence that on 7 October Israeli forces went on a panicked rampage, firing wildly with powerful weapons, indiscriminately killing both Palestinian fighters and the Israeli civilians who were with them. That is the testimony of Yasmin Porat, an Israeli civilian who survived a massacre by Israeli forces at Kibbutz Be’eri.

Israeli air force has admitted that it sent up more than two dozen attack helicopters which fired huge amounts of heavy cannon shells and Hellfire missiles on 7 October, even though in many cases the pilots could not tell Palestinians apart from Israeli civilians.

“Shoot at everything,” one squadron leader told his men.


It is time to face the truth.

What Hamas has been doing since they have come to power is nothing compared to what Israel has been doing in that time period. You are confusing excrement (Diaper Army) with people fighting for their rights and freedom. Tell me how many people has Hamas killed since they have come to power. Add 8000 killed before 7th October to the 30,000 since and another 20+ under the rubble. Oh but I hear you say what about the missiles, and while you are at it tell us how many people did the missiles kill exactly?

Wake up RW.

Listen to Regev traying to explain that they made a mistake about counting and the reason. Israeli civilians were burnt with Hamas people. Who the fuck fired the hellfires to burn so many. If they burnt 200 Hamas people, assuming that each one had at least 2 hostages each makes it 400 Israeli civilians burnt by the Diaper Army

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:11 am

...obviously you "read" what you/"you" want to read in my observations, opinions, or comments, Lordo.



...as yet unconfirmed, a ship abandoned from missile attack.

...much detail in other news.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:48 am

Lordo wrote:Are you really blaming Hamas for all the killings on 7th October. Where is the evidence? Just because Israel said so? Pull the other one mate. To claim anything you have to show evidence.


Amazing gaslighting from our resident loony! :shock:

Are you denying that Hamas initiated the attacks, crossed the border and killed large numbers of civilians?

Are you denying that it is Hamas' stated aim to eradicate the Jews - A Genocide in fact.

Because it seems like you'd prefer to pigeonhole those facts on a daily basis!

Hamas sowed the wine and now reap the whirlwind.

What a Mong you are Bordo! :?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:31 am

The actual truth of “when the people behind the fence couldn’t even get medication” and why Netanyahu is (politically) a dead man walking.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68318856

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:47 am

Worth repeating I think:

Lordo wrote:Are you really blaming Hamas for all the killings on 7th October. Where is the evidence? Just because Israel said so? Pull the other one mate. To claim anything you have to show evidence.


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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:45 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...obviously you "read" what you/"you" want to read in my observations, opinions, or comments, Lordo.



...as yet unconfirmed, a ship abandoned from missile attack.

...much detail in other news.


Indeed, the Yemenis have said they will continue to attack so long as Gaza is being attacked. Is there any moral reason why they do not have the right to attack ships connected with Israel in any way? Or should they just take to protesting in the streets? Is that the answer?

I do read all the comments you make RW. If I agree with you, I will not comment. I only comment if I disagree. How about you explaining why what I said is wrong.

I vote for an independent international investigation of what happened on 7th October in Israel. The terrorists found that were responsible for burning people alive should not be allowed to be in government. Add to that, if a state exists that carried out such attacks should be dissolved.

Do you agree?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:38 pm

I guess Starmer realised not only is he losing the Muslim vote, he is also losing the left wing vote too. After 5 fuckin months they come out calling for an immediate ceasefire.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/labour-calls-for-immediate-ceasefire-in-gaza-for-first-time/ar-BB1iA30k?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b308599324cd42b996aa24bd8f24a607&ei=20
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