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Postby Londonrake » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:31 pm

Makes you wonder where the 5000 rockets Hamas fired at Israel on 7th October came from. :? Let me see....................

That, whilst they were killing 364 kids at the Nova music festival. Which - according to your deranged mind - was perfectly OK. Given that, just across the fence, Gaza Palestinians were "going without medicines". Let's not consider the hundreds of millions in "aid" that Hamas had spent on constructing a network of tunnels in Gaza which far exceeded the size and complexity of the London underground.

Obviously - like the Ukranian civilians - those kids "deserved it".

You really are a Sicko. :wink:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:38 am

Interesting facts totally ignored by the Swine in the west

Evidence Israel killed its own
Regev’s statement is a significant addition to the mounting evidence that on 7 October Israeli forces went on a panicked rampage, firing wildly with powerful weapons, indiscriminately killing both Palestinian fighters and the Israeli civilians who were with them.

That is the testimony of Yasmin Porat, an Israeli civilian who survived a massacre by Israeli forces at Kibbutz Be’eri.

And the Israeli air force has admitted that it sent up more than two dozen attack helicopters which fired huge amounts of heavy cannon shells and Hellfire missiles on 7 October, even though in many cases the pilots could not tell Palestinians apart from Israeli civilians.

“Shoot at everything,” one squadron leader told his men.


https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-admits-burning-hundreds-people-7-october

So I ask the question again. When is the investigation goin to be done to establish who killed who on Oct 7th, It really is not rocket science.

The one image which has disappeared is the charred man in the car at the concert that only a hellfire missile could have done.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:49 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68331988

Doctors across Gaza have described operating on patients without anaesthetic, turning people with chronic conditions away, and treating rotting wounds with limited medical supplies.

"Because of the shortage of painkillers we leave patients to scream for hours and hours," one told the BBC.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has described the state of healthcare in Gaza as being "beyond words".

It said 23 hospitals in Gaza were not functioning at all as of Sunday - 12 were partially functioning and one minimally.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:51 am

Lets here from the assholes one more time, who is and has always been against two state solution again?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israel-cabinet-officially-rejects-allies-two-state-solution/ar-BB1itWBR?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=147622016eed4e3db9797ece3efb6c47&ei=9

Is it not about time to cut funds, weapons and trade with the ZionistsCunts,
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:33 pm

Suddenly they have woken up. What took them so long?

Top UN court to open hearings into Israel’s occupation of lands sought for a Palestinian state.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/top-un-court-to-open-hearings-into-israel-s-occupation-of-lands-sought-for-a-palestinian-state/ar-BB1ivaC7?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=bfbacf244c5f43778ea044f6108dedc2&ei=26

If Hamas is is gone, there is no need to ceasefire. Ceasefire requires two sides to take place. Zionists are just beyond belief.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/a-ceasefire-cannot-take-place-without-hostages-release-and-hamas-vanquished/ar-BB1iuysb?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=a32078c5ba1c4b09a430c0997a9e46db&ei=21
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:42 pm

What an incredible admission. Regev said they had counted the bodies of 1400 people but then they realised later that 200 of those were so badly burnt that they did not realise that were Hamas fighters which is why they reduced it to 1200 dead on October 7th. What more evidence do you need that Israel was responsible for attacking Hamas and their hostages they had in their houses with hellfire missiles.

At first they announced that Hamas burnt innocent civilians. Can this cunt be so stupid and yet act as an ambassador at some point in his life?

https://twitter.com/RamAbdu/status/1725466157166059949?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1725466157166059949%7Ctwgr%5E46fb23e64d585c30c37daf90dd78920e3b0d0d4b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Felectronicintifada.net%2Fblogs%2Fali-abunimah%2Fisrael-admits-burning-hundreds-people-7-october

Here is another bit from Electronic Intifada.

Haaretz reports: “According to him [Tuval], only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages – did the IDF [Israeli army] complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”


So now we have a figure. Of the 1200 killed 112 were killed in Be'eri. So it seems majority Be'eri were killed by the Diaper Army right? No doubt the same applies to the concert that is so close to the Mushroom's heart. Majority killed by the Diaper Army.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:36 pm

Lordo wrote:What an incredible admission. Regev said they had counted the bodies of 1400 people but then they realised later that 200 of those were so badly burnt that they did not realise that were Hamas fighters which is why they reduced it to 1200 dead on October 7th. What more evidence do you need that Israel was responsible for attacking Hamas and their hostages they had in their houses with hellfire missiles.

At first they announced that Hamas burnt innocent civilians. Can this cunt be so stupid and yet act as an ambassador at some point in his life?

https://twitter.com/RamAbdu/status/1725466157166059949?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1725466157166059949%7Ctwgr%5E46fb23e64d585c30c37daf90dd78920e3b0d0d4b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Felectronicintifada.net%2Fblogs%2Fali-abunimah%2Fisrael-admits-burning-hundreds-people-7-october

Here is another bit from Electronic Intifada.

Haaretz reports: “According to him [Tuval], only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages – did the IDF [Israeli army] complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”


So now we have a figure. Of the 1200 killed 112 were killed in Be'eri. So it seems majority Be'eri were killed by the Diaper Army right? No doubt the same applies to the concert that is so close to the Mushroom's heart. Majority killed by the Diaper Army.


You are correct! There was a later Haaretz report on the deaths at the festival, mainly based on social media reports and from those that escaped the scene, that showed the damage and deaths at the festival were caused by tanks and helicopters of the IDF .... who, when they eventually woke up, were ordered to shoot at anything that moved!

Hamas did not have weapons that could possibly cause such damage. LR's previously claimed 'festival death toll' by Hamas was a load of rubbish ! It wasn't Hamas that was responsible and the same goes for the deaths in the Kibutzim, it was the IDF and it happened quite a long time AFTER the initial Hamas attack.

Most of the deaths occurred were when Hamas was retreating back into Gaza with their hostages.!

Confirmation of all of this was released by Haaretz some weeks later .......... but it didn't make the MSM. That's why LR gets it wrong ...... what he reads in the first MSM reports is cast in stone ...... anything else is just Palestinian/Hamas propaganda and anti-Semitism! :roll:

One question that has not been answered yet is why it took the IDF so long (several hours) to respond? For a military force with such a reputation for its military prowess and intelligence, to respond so slowly says it was either by design or they are nowhere near as competent as their reputation suggests.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:48 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Lordo wrote:What an incredible admission. Regev said they had counted the bodies of 1400 people but then they realised later that 200 of those were so badly burnt that they did not realise that were Hamas fighters which is why they reduced it to 1200 dead on October 7th. What more evidence do you need that Israel was responsible for attacking Hamas and their hostages they had in their houses with hellfire missiles.

At first they announced that Hamas burnt innocent civilians. Can this cunt be so stupid and yet act as an ambassador at some point in his life?

https://twitter.com/RamAbdu/status/1725466157166059949?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1725466157166059949%7Ctwgr%5E46fb23e64d585c30c37daf90dd78920e3b0d0d4b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Felectronicintifada.net%2Fblogs%2Fali-abunimah%2Fisrael-admits-burning-hundreds-people-7-october

Here is another bit from Electronic Intifada.

Haaretz reports: “According to him [Tuval], only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages – did the IDF [Israeli army] complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”


So now we have a figure. Of the 1200 killed 112 were killed in Be'eri. So it seems majority Be'eri were killed by the Diaper Army right? No doubt the same applies to the concert that is so close to the Mushroom's heart. Majority killed by the Diaper Army.


You are correct! There was a later Haaretz report on the deaths at the festival, mainly based on social media reports and from those that escaped the scene, that showed the damage and deaths at the festival were caused by tanks and helicopters of the IDF .... who, when they eventually woke up, were ordered to shoot at anything that moved!

Hamas did not have weapons that could possibly cause such damage. LR's previously claimed 'festival death toll' by Hamas was a load of rubbish ! It wasn't Hamas that was responsible and the same goes for the deaths in the Kibutzim, it was the IDF and it happened quite a long time AFTER the initial Hamas attack.

Most of the deaths occurred were when Hamas was retreating back into Gaza with their hostages.!

Confirmation of all of this was released by Haaretz some weeks later .......... but it didn't make the MSM. That's why LR gets it wrong ...... what he reads in the first MSM reports is cast in stone ...... anything else is just Palestinian/Hamas propaganda and anti-Semitism! :roll:

One question that has not been answered yet is why it took the IDF so long (several hours) to respond? For a military force with such a reputation for its military prowess and intelligence, to respond so slowly says it was either by design or they are nowhere near as competent as their reputation suggests.

Hamas overpowered the Israeli soldiers around Gaza. I think the figures quoted at the time was 1600 Hamas fighters overpowered 16,000 IDF soldiers around Gaza.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:40 pm

Apart from the early days, post Oct 7th,and until recently I haven't really taken part much in this thread. Although, I've followed the posts. As with the Ukraine effort it's in essence proven to be a waste of time.

There are two things I could have predicted though from the very outset. Firstly, there would be an (absolutely inevitable) conspiracy theory along the lines it was all actually a devious Netanyahu plan, aimed at annexing Gaza and eliminating the Palestinians. Secondly, there would be an (absolutely inevitable) false flag story that the Israelis murdered a lot of their own people as part of the above, designed to make Hamas look the villains. In the wonderful world of Social Media all things are incontestably provable of course. Which is why, on the whole, I tend to avoid things like links.

We've even read it being spun in here along the lines that Hamas's treatment of the 243 men, women and children hostages that they abducted, proves what humanitarians they are. Contrasted with how Israel's cold blooded pursuit of this war shows how little they care about them. You really couldn't make it up - but you do! :lol:

I wasn't disappointed. It's the same ole, same ole shite we have seen time and again, most notably in Ukraine, where in the early days every Russian missile that killed enough Ukrainian civilians to make the news would be spun out of Moscow as a "false flag". As ever, faithfully parroted by the useful idiots. That, until so many bombs and missiles were raining down on the Ukranian population that even the zealots could see the absurdity.

Politically, Netanyahu ihas been a dead man walking since Oct 7th. When this is resolved (and he survives with extreme right wing support, as long as he can spin the war out and Israelis' desire to stand together in national conflicts) he will inevitably be driven out of office. The Israeli people blame the man's political machinations, turning a blind eye to Hamas, and even tacitly supporting them, in order to drive a wedge between them and the PLA. That and his sheer hubris.

What happened at the Re'im Nova music festival was a matter of record. Many. You can view videos of Hamas coming in as pairs on Paragliders, Others busted through the fence and attacked in vehicles. I don't know what you mean by "Hamas did not have weapons that could possibly cause such damage." What are you talking about? :? They carried assault rifles and RPGs, you can hear the small arms fire as the festival goers try to flee. They shot to death over 250 kids at that event. The IDF attacking stuff is total BS. But then again, it so often is and clearly, by the way this thread and even the forum has gradually been abandoned people can't be bothered with it. It's always seemed the case to me that you will accept, without question, the most clearly absurd things in order to reinforce your simmering resentment of the West, which treated you so badly. I feel sorry for you, harbouring nothing of your nationality, heritage and culture but instead that level of hatred.

RH.

Over the years I've seen you be adopted by some odd waifs and strays. Have to say that it seems to me you have reached a new low in Lordo. The man's a foul-mouthed, hate filled racist, who, despite his regular crocodile tears over the poverty stricken people of the UK (and world) clearly doesn't have an ounce of humanity in his being. He's the classic type that when they gain power we end up with the Gulags, gas chambers and killing fields. He survives by sucking up, posting relentlessly, mostly stuff which he clearly has little to no understanding of. I'm surprised and disappointed you would take him under your wing. Any port in a storm though I suppose.

His contribution just after those 250 kids were murdered at Re'im - before he latched on to the BS stories:

[quote="Lordo"]I mean while the Palestinians are suffering across in Gaza totally unable to survive, people on the other side of the fence are dancing away. You can only feel for these pour Israelis who cannot enjoy a decent song and dance. while the people on the other side of the fence can't even get medication.[/quote]

Absolutely typical, blatantly unaware of what Hamas have been doing with hundreds of millions in "aid" over many years. Blind, ignorant, suck up prejudice.
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