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[miltiades]

Oh and one more thing. Crime is near zero.

There is hardly any drug issues. If you lose your wallet in the street, it's normal that the person who finds it will return it. If that happens in Cyprus or Greece in particular, then you would be fortunate if it was returned.

You can leave your car unlocked, and even your house open although I wouldn't push your luck. If someone robs you, it will be the migrant workers but the risks and penalties are too high for most to even try it.

You can leave valuables in your taxi. Your children are safe, and protected.

You will find a society that simply does not exist in the western world.

You see, they are not so bad after all.

Some areas are more liberal than others. For instance, Dubai is excellent. In Abu Dhabi you need to be a little more careful because it's not as liberal as Abu Dhabi but it's ok. Oman and Qatar are ok as well. KSA is a different kettle of fish. But I can't say that it is dangerous at all. Probably Europe, Australia and USA are more dangerous I would say.

They love children and will do everything for them, even Christian and Western Children.

Pointing out the huge cultural differences and not claiming or stating that the Arabs are nasty and horrible people, neither did I say that I hate their food or their music.
We are a very different cultural race from the Arabs, all apart from the psycho who is a half Arab

There are not huge cultural differences in my opinion. The music is almost an exact carbon copy of Greek Music. I could listen to it all day.

If you make an genuine effort, they respond very warmly, even in the KSA.

I wouldn't go drinking in public however or behaving like a drongo.

Someone like yourself, with your lack of tolerance, bigotry, and disrespect mind find the going a bit tough.

If you really must compare cultures, Greeks and Cypriots can find a lot of commonality with them, particularly the food, music and dance.

As far as politeness and hospitality are concerned, the Arabs destroy everyone including Cypriots.

The differences are all in your head. Greeks and Cypriots have a lot more in common with them than Europeans and that is a good thing because Arabs are a very interesting, and colorful people.

I completely love them.

Rubbish, as usual !!
Look at the list I posted and tell me which listed is compatible with our culture.

[Paphitis]

Oh and one more thing. Crime is near zero.

There is hardly any drug issues. If you lose your wallet in the street, it's normal that the person who finds it will return it. If that happens in Cyprus or Greece in particular, then you would be fortunate if it was returned.

You can leave your car unlocked, and even your house open although I wouldn't push your luck. If someone robs you, it will be the migrant workers but the risks and penalties are too high for most to even try it.

You can leave valuables in your taxi. Your children are safe, and protected.

You will find a society that simply does not exist in the western world.

You see, they are not so bad after all.

Some areas are more liberal than others. For instance, Dubai is excellent. In Abu Dhabi you need to be a little more careful because it's not as liberal as Abu Dhabi but it's ok. Oman and Qatar are ok as well. KSA is a different kettle of fish. But I can't say that it is dangerous at all. Probably Europe, Australia and USA are more dangerous I would say.

They love children and will do everything for them, even Christian and Western Children.

Pointing out the huge cultural differences and not claiming or stating that the Arabs are nasty and horrible people, neither did I say that I hate their food or their music.
We are a very different cultural race from the Arabs, all apart from the psycho who is a half Arab

There are not huge cultural differences in my opinion. The music is almost an exact carbon copy of Greek Music. I could listen to it all day.

If you make an genuine effort, they respond very warmly, even in the KSA.

I wouldn't go drinking in public however or behaving like a drongo.

Someone like yourself, with your lack of tolerance, bigotry, and disrespect mind find the going a bit tough.

If you really must compare cultures, Greeks and Cypriots can find a lot of commonality with them, particularly the food, music and dance.

As far as politeness and hospitality are concerned, the Arabs destroy everyone including Cypriots.

The differences are all in your head. Greeks and Cypriots have a lot more in common with them than Europeans and that is a good thing because Arabs are a very interesting, and colorful people.

I completely love them.

Rubbish, as usual !!
Look at the list I posted and tell me which listed is compatible with our culture.

I suggest you get your arse on a plane and get over there.

Firstly, it's a massive eye opener and it's completely amazing. Dubai and Abu Dhabi are a must but if you want a more complete cultural understanding, then add Qatar and Oman. I will not recommend the KSA because it's usually people like you who get themselves into trouble.

Let me tell you this, their women are a lot more classier than Eastern European women.

I always go on about Cyprus and Australia and even the USA. Yes sure, all people are great.

But in comparison, Europeans, Americans, Australians are very bland. I can't say that about Arabs. Sorry.

[miltiades]

Mate, you are talking from the back of your arse. Elegant women ?? What a load of crap.
If all women looked like them I would never look at the opposite sex. There is no glamour in a woman covered from head to toe dressed in black.

They can keep their culture and I will keep mine!!

[Paphitis]

Mate, you are talking from the back of your arse. Elegant women ?? What a load of crap.
If all women looked like them I would never look at the opposite sex. There is no glamour in a woman covered from head to toe dressed in black.

They can keep their culture and I will keep mine!!

On the contrary, there women are absolutely amazing, quite classy and their society as we all know very well is quite conservative. But even so, they are capable of many surprises.

Their women are naturally bueatiful.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Another error (represented in Sotos' spreadsheets) is that sampling from small islands with a reduced population spread throws up more spurious results.

Also, for example, there are a few rare haplotypes pinpointed to some Scottish clans and if you sample near the glens they inhabit, it would make other Scots, say a random Glaswegian, appear non-Scottish because he may lack this haplotype. But, genotyping doesn't work like that these days.

I wonder why this website (which pretends to be an official European one somehow connected to the EU) should see fit to release such outdated and meaningless data .... even with their disclaimer?

[Sotos]

After further analysis, I can see that the average difference of 42.5 between Cyprus and Greece is indeed very little. I should also note that the result for Greece is the average of all the Greek regions and if Cyprus was counted as a Greek region then the average result for Greece would have been even closer to what we have in Cyprus. Another thing to note is that several regions in other countries have greater differences between them than what Cyprus has with other Greek regions. For example there is a 60 points difference between Sicily and North Italy, and 56.5 points difference between North Germany and South Germany. Similar differences between regions of France, or between regions of Spain. So if Cyprus was part of Greece there would be nothing strange. If you want "strange" differences you need to look for example at the 89.5 points of difference between Italian island Sardinia and North Italy, or the the 86 points of difference between Corsica and Brittany (both part of France).

[GreekIslandGirl]

Yes, no significant differences are common and such 12-marker tests of olden days are treated contemptuously as "too basic to yield useful information".

[Paphitis]

Another error (represented in Sotos' spreadsheets) is that sampling from small islands with a reduced population spread throws up more spurious results.

Also, for example, there are a few rare haplotypes pinpointed to some Scottish clans and if you sample near the glens they inhabit, it would make other Scots, say a random Glaswegian, appear non-Scottish because he may lack this haplotype. But, genotyping doesn't work like that these days.

I wonder why this website (which pretends to be an official European one somehow connected to the EU) should see fit to release such outdated and meaningless data .... even with their disclaimer?

Maybe because it is a European site and from my observations it actually collates some very valid and thorough data.

I couldn't give a stuff quite honestly if the website indicates links between Greeks and Cypriots or not as a matter of fact. It's not at all that important to me unlike Get Real who wants to disprove any connection or you who is overly sensitive about that. We all have freedom of speech, including that website.

You however need to understand that Greeks and Cypriots are not so clever and certainly not as clever as we seem to think. Greece for instance is not in a good place at all. The country is in disarray. Even Turkey is making Greece eat its dust.

I have no idea who to blame for all the crap, or who to pinpoint blame on. It certainly is not the fault of all Grerks so I would agree with you there. Previous and current Governments can be blamed. But as a matter of fact, so are the people. Ultimate responsibility is probably with the people even though not all have this stupid hangover from who knows where. It is very clear to me that there is something deeply wrong with the country and its getting embarrassing. And I have no idea what the solution is either.

All I know and can see is that the Governments are made to do stupid things, there is no cohesion or unity. Western Europeans think Greece is idiotic and I can see how they have come to that conclusion to be honest. They think they are better and it appears to be true because we can't organize anything.

I don't want this to be the case at all. It's actually all quite worrying and terrible for the country. Of course I prefer Greece to stand up as a much stronger and forthright nation but it is very difficult to see that happen for a long time at least.

[GreekIslandGirl]

After further analysis, I can see that the average difference of 42.5 between Cyprus and Greece is indeed very little. I should also note that the result for Greece is the average of all the Greek regions and if Cyprus was counted as a Greek region then the average result for Greece would have been even closer to what we have in Cyprus. Another thing to note is that several regions in other countries have greater differences between them than what Cyprus has with other Greek regions. For example there is a 60 points difference between Sicily and North Italy, and 56.5 points difference between North Germany and South Germany. Similar differences between regions of France, or between regions of Spain. So if Cyprus was part of Greece there would be nothing strange. If you want "strange" differences you need to look for example at the 89.5 points of difference between Italian island Sardinia and North Italy, or the the 86 points of difference between Corsica and Brittany (both part of France).

It's good.

[Tim Drayton]

Conclusive...evidence that we are ....Arabs :
1. We dress in gellapies, wear a headscarf, our women look like vrikolakes, never show their hair or their legs, never wear bikinis and walk 3 steps before the men folk.
2. We do not use cutlery, we use our fingers, right hand only, with the left we scartch our arses.
3.We do not drink alchohol , do not eat bacon or pork ...sheftalies.
4. We pray 5 times a day.
5. We have 4 or more wives whom we can replace anytime by a wave of the hand.
6. Our women are not permitted to drive cars, or attend sporting events, neither are they allowed to pray with us.
7. We do not respect the sanctity of life as we believe that heaven is where life realy is.
8. We all grow our beards, women too.
9.We occasionaly stone a rape victim to death.
10. We gladly commit suicide in the name of our God, only we take with us any innocent bystanders.

Yes folks, we must be ...Arabs !

Please tell me you're not serious about this!

Arabs are totally lovely and I really enjoy most aspects of their culture.

Ok, they can be overly religious is about all, but the same can be said of Jews, Greeks and some parts of USA even.

Which of my ten listed cultural customs do you find untrue ?
Maybe they do not have polygamy, or maybe they freely consume Scotch !!
Maybe their women folk particiapte in sporting events, maybe Im just ...wrong !!

I used to know a Moroccan married to a Turkish woman and living in Turkey and both he and his wife wear Western dress, he eats using cutlery, he drinks alcohol although I am not sure about pork, doesn't pray because he is an atheist, has only one wife, didn't have a car but I can't imaging him forbidding his wife to drive, doesn't believe in heaven because he is an atheist, doesn't have a beard, has never stoned anyone to death and has no intention of committing suicide.

You should remember that not all Arabs are Muslims, for one thing, and you are confusing culture and religion.