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[Simon]

What are you talking about Zan. The UN have made resolutions telling Turkish troops to leave. This shows that even the USA can't justify Turkey's actions. They haven't enforced them because the USA wouldn't allow it. The UN is just a puppet of the USA, just like Annan is.

[cypezokyli]

which resolution was it?

[Piratis]

zan, I never said any lies.

Do not confuse the UN resolution with the Annan plan. The Annan plan was just a document which "tried" to bring a compromise and nothing more. According to the plan itself it is now null and void. This is not the case with the UN resolutions or the human rights principles.

[Simon]

I'm not sure as to the exact resolutions but....

Cyprus occupation

10. The Ministers reiterated their deep concern at the continuing military occupation in Cyprus and condemned all acts that challenged in any form whatsoever the unity of the Republic of Cyprus. The Ministers reaffirmed the support for the independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity, unity and non-aligned status of the Republic and non-interference in its internal affairs. They called for the withdrawal of all foreign military forces from the Republic of Cyprus. This would contribute to a just and peaceful solution to the question of Cyprus, on the basis of the immediate implementation of the relevant United Nations General Assembly and Security Council resolutions and decisions, and non-aligned declarations and communiqués on the subject. They pledged their full support to the efforts of the United Nations Secretary-General in the solution of the problem and urged him to continue and intensify his current efforts

This is the view of United Nations Security Council. I'm not sure how to do links but this is where I got it from.

http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/9a798adbf322aff38525617b006d88d7/9c1d52f4f469959d852568af0076d107!OpenDocument

Basically, go to the United Nations website and search "Cyprus occupation."

[zan]

Which is sort of where I am coming from. It does not say that the intervention was illegal. It says it is deeply concerned. It very well may be concerned and this is a UN statement basically saying we will take care of it. Turkeys claim to legally intervening has also been endorsed by Greece. The legal wrangling after the operation was finished is what the argument is today and Turkey argues it is at the request of the KKTC that they are there. If it was a clear legal issue I don’t know what Turkey would say but it is not. That is all I was trying to say. Just because Piratis says its illegal does not make it so, otherwise the UN would have acted on it. If it is true that the UN does not do anything that the US does not want it to do then why did they issue the resolution in the first place. That argument does not make sense. It is only when the US makes a decision that Piratis likes they are just and when they side with Turkey its all against the law. Which one is it????

[Simon]

It does not say that the intervention was illegal. It says it is deeply concerned.

Zan, they are saying that the occupation is illegal. They are saying that all foreign troops must leave. Read it, it says,

They called for the withdrawal of all foreign military forces from the Republic of Cyprus. This would contribute to a just and peaceful solution to the question of Cyprus, on the basis of the immediate implementation of the relevant United Nations General Assembly and Security Council resolutions and decisions, and non-aligned declarations and communiqués on the subject

Zan says

Just because Piratis says its illegal does not make it so, otherwise the UN would have acted on it. If it is true that the UN does not do anything that the US does not want it to do then why did they issue the resolution in the first place

The UN are hardly going to act on it by sending troops are they. They are too worried about upsetting Turkey. The UN have said it is illegal. Just like what Iran is doing is illegal. The difference is, the UN only enforce their resolutions when the USA wants them to. The USA couldn't hide the fact that the presence of the troops is illegal, that is why the resolutions were made. But that doesn't worry them anyway. Because they control any specific actions the UN makes in trying to enforce their resolutions.

[zan]

The 1960 constitution that the Greeks decided to sign states that the guarantee powers can have a certain amount of military presence on the island if needed. How many that is I have no idea.

[Kifeas]

The 1960 constitution that the Greeks decided to sign states that the guarantee powers can have a certain amount of military presence on the island if needed. How many that is I have no idea.

Apparently, you have no idea about one of the most important aspects of the Cyprus problem, the one that relates to the 1960 treaty of guarantee based on which Turkey claimed that it had a right to invade in Cyprus, but you have an idea (a very strong one I must say) of what percentage of land ownership your community should have had!

[cypezokyli]

simon,
my computer is kind of slow...and you make me waste time here.

what you posted is a

On the instructions of my Government, and in accordance with paragraph 21 of the Declaration, I wish to enclose for information the text of the Final Declaration adopted by the Mediterranean members of the Non-Aligned Movement on 11 September 1984, at the close of a meeting held at ministerial level in Valletta, Malta, on 10 and 11 September 1984.

I should be grateful if the text could be reproduced as a document of the General Assembly, under agenda item 67, and of the Security Council.

the mediteranean members of the non-aligned movement.....jesus crist.
dont u read what you post?
if u consider that turkey greece italy spain and france are members of nato.....u can understand who signed this.
and u said

This is the view of United Nations Security Council

and these people say they would be grateful IF it could be reproduced...


there are a couple of resolution (and by resolution i mean a security council resolution...not the rest) that are in favor of the gc (usually the 541 which declares trnc as illegal, and 716 where the bizonal is added to the bicommunal-which was always there...ooops some people dont like that).

[Piratis]

The Security Council,



Having considered the report of the Secretary-General, at its 1779th meeting, about the recent developments in Cyprus,



Having heard the statement of the President of the Republic of Cyprus and the statements of the representatives of Cyprus, Turkey, Greece and other Member States,



Having considered at its present meeting further developments in the island,

Deeply deploring the outbreak of violence and the continuing bloodshed,



Gravely concerned about the situation which has led to a serious threat to international peace and security, and which has created a most explosive situation in the whole Eastern Mediterranean area,



Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,



Recalling its resolution 186 (1964) of 4 March 1964 and its subsequent resolutions on this matter,



Conscious of its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in accordance with Article 24 of the Charter of the United Nations,



1. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.



2. Calls upon all parties to the present fighting as a first step to cease all firing and requests all States to exercise the utmost restraint and to refrain from any action which might further aggravate the situation;



3. Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;


4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;


5. Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to enter into negotiations without delay for the restoration of peace in the area and constitutional government of Cyprus and to keep the Secretary-General informed;



6. Calls upon all parties to co-operate fully with the United Nations Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus to enable it to carry out its mandate;



7. Decides to keep the situation under constant review and asks the Secretary-General to report as appropriate with a view to adopting further measures in order to ensure that peaceful conditions are restored as soon as possible.

http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION ... penElement