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[Get Real!]

A good beating was in order…

No GR... especially when he was already down and they kept hitting him. They could have used as much force as was needed to throw him in a cell, and then a court would judge his behavior and sentence him accordingly. What we need are stricter courts, not uneducated police officers deciding the punishment. Also we need stricter courts for when the police is not polite and they misuse their position. I was also stopped for traffic violations and I comply because so far the policemen are polite with me. But I remember one time (many years ago) when I was at some deserted hill late at night with my girlfriend (not doing anything illegal), and some police car arrived and the two cops were acting a bit like assholes implying I must be doing something wrong. They didn't persist too much and they left, but I remember how I started to get a bit pissed off at them. It is not hard to imagine how an asshole policeman assuming that the other person is doing something illegal, would behave inappropriately and cause the other person to react.

What would it take for a cop to lash out at that fellow and whack him with a baton about 50 times? Like a maniac...

I’d say we’re looking at EXTREME anger and FRUSTRATION. A severe FURY that this individual raised in these guys… he brought the worst out of them.

Now they all need counseling but it didn't have to be this way...

[Tim Drayton]

If you stopped to think for a minute, you would realise that you were guilty of contradiction.

One the one hand, you say that you want to live in peace and security - and so do I - and this is surely a basic human right. On the other hand, the right of a person suspected by the police to be treated in accordance with due procedure is also a human right. You cannot support one set of human rights and deny another set without making nonsense of the very notion of human rights.

But you’re conveniently ignoring the fact that this individual had…

1. Refused to be frisked
2. Assaulted a police officer
3. Was taken to jail where he refused to comply with the jail process
4. He was screwing the cops around for 3-4 hours before the video incident took place.

So, I’d say that this chap FORFEITED his Human Rights by stepping all over the Human Rights of the cops, the citizens, and the State .

A good beating was in order…

My good fellow, I am not ignoring anything. There is a due process that the police have to abide by, and they didn't. If one person's human rights can be forfeited, why not another's? Perhaps a burglar who enters your home could come up with some pretext to argue that you had forfeited your human rights and so deserved to be burgled.

[Sotos]

A good beating was in order…

No GR... especially when he was already down and they kept hitting him. They could have used as much force as was needed to throw him in a cell, and then a court would judge his behavior and sentence him accordingly. What we need are stricter courts, not uneducated police officers deciding the punishment. Also we need stricter courts for when the police is not polite and they misuse their position. I was also stopped for traffic violations and I comply because so far the policemen are polite with me. But I remember one time (many years ago) when I was at some deserted hill late at night with my girlfriend (not doing anything illegal), and some police car arrived and the two cops were acting a bit like assholes implying I must be doing something wrong. They didn't persist too much and they left, but I remember how I started to get a bit pissed off at them. It is not hard to imagine how an asshole policeman assuming that the other person is doing something illegal, would behave inappropriately and cause the other person to react.

What would it take for a cop to lash out at that fellow and whack him with a baton about 50 times? Like a maniac...

I’d say we’re looking at EXTREME anger and FRUSTRATION. A severe FURY that this individual raised in these guys… he brought the worst out of them.

Now they all need counseling but it didn't have to be this way...

Policemen should be able to control their anger. But that is not the major issue in my opinion. The major question is if this is indeed a rare incident. This became public because there was a video and the lawyer of that person managed to get his hands on that video. But if there was no video evidence then nobody would believe that guy that the police beat him up in such a way. So maybe that policeman acted in that way not because there was something so extreme that made him act in that way for just that one time, but because that is how he has been always acting whenever he was a pissed off... maybe he beat up many people, but there is just no video evidence for the other cases. Obviously they can't have cameras everywhere... and the fact that he kept beating him in a room that there was a camera probably means that he thought that he could have control over the recording.

[Paphitis]

This was an atrocious incident. It is beyond my comprehension that some people here seek to exonerate these policemen.

I couldn’t care less if a small number of criminals get a beating or two if it means that my country will be a safer place to live. As a law abiding person (minus a few traffic violations) I know that I’ll never be one of the capricious ones challenging the authority so I’ve got nothing to fear.

As for those wanting to weaken the Police at the grave risk of strengthening crime for the sake of the Human Rights of selfish criminals who don’t have a care for society… I can only question their IQs.

Your families are far more important than the Human Rights of those who have no respect for themselves let alone you and will gladly make you their victim, so start using your heads and get your priorities in order... the lot of you!

This kind of "law and order" does not work very well at all and will undermine the police force completely as an ethical organization. It will breed mistrust.

I remember being on the wrong side of the law at one time, and wrongly so, as I was growing up in the country. The cops were behaving like the Texas Rangers and very racist to the core and they were after my old man. It was very difficult growing up in those days and I had a mistrust of police for a long time, thinking they are all racist yobos who wanted to bash me in order to teach my dad a lesson, who btw did nothing wrong and was a victim of police brutality worse than that in the video because he was stabbed and hospitalized. After, they manufactured a story and had him charged for the death of 2 police officers or assaulting them leading up to their death. I remember the about 20 police cars from Melbourne who had come just for my dad, detectives and homicide. It was as if my Dad was Al Capone but he was a very sweet man who couldn't hurt a flea.

You are deluded to think the police are beyond reproach or faultless. They have a lot of power and that before can be abused by bad cops like in that video and just like many cases coming out of the USA. The USA has the highest rate of incarceration a per capita and you don't want that.

[Jerry]

So GR, did this chap deserve to be dealt with in this way for allegedly pulling a gun on a policeman?
http://www.todayszaman.com/national_i-s ... 96844.html

I don’t give a shit about what happens in Turkey... or rather, let me know when a nuclear warhead lands smack in the center of Ankara.

Ta.

The victim is a human being regardless of race. There are rogue policemen in this every country, I hope for your sake you never encounter one. No doubt you would stick to your "principles" and thank the police should you ever suffer a beating by a rogue copper.

[Jerry]

Those who believe in law and order have zero tolerance for criminals!

Every year crime in Cyprus is rising and it’s all due to three things:

1. An increased number of criminal foreigners entering the country. (Soon to get worse with Shengen)

2. An increased number of LOCALS starting to embrace foreign criminal ways!

3. The Police’s hands getting tied into a knot to the point where they can’t do their job anymore to protect us.

Today, I was informed that Tseri (a small town where I live with just over 5,000 people) had no less than 5 break-ins over the weekend!

Now WTF is this? Are we living in New York???


Crime-wise Cyprus is going down the cesspool and it’s all thanks to all the idiots supporting criminals by going against the Police. If anything now is the time when the Police *must* come down on them with a heavy hand if we're to win this war.

So to those of you who support this heap of shit who saw fit to resist a simple pat-down and subsequently caused all this commotion by refusing to cooperate with the Police, I sincerely hope that your home gets burglarized and violated so that you may learn firsthand how stupid you are!

IDIOTS!

So GR, did this chap deserve to be dealt with in this way for allegedly pulling a gun on a policeman?
http://www.todayszaman.com/national_i-s ... 96844.html

You care what happens to Turks, what a prick!

Just what I expected from a little racist shit like yourself.

[Cap]

So GR, did this chap deserve to be dealt with in this way for allegedly pulling a gun on a policeman?
http://www.todayszaman.com/national_i-s ... 96844.html

I don’t give a shit about what happens in Turkey... or rather, let me know when a nuclear warhead lands smack in the center of Ankara.

Ta.

Chances are Jerry, he will never encounter one.
Cops don't wake up in the morning and just suddenly decide to beat the shit out of someone because they didn't like the colour of his car.

[Lordo]

you mean like the two boys they kicked the shit out of a few years back.

the groc system of justice is the same as it was in 1963 and unleashed onto the tc population. you boys have a long way to go before you can even smell like a civilised nation. a lot dirty washing to be done before that.


i was reading trhe other day about the account of two gc soldiers who came across a tc girl. one of them raped her repeatedly and eventually killed her. second one asked why he killed her before he had a chance to rape her too. the first replied the body is still work you can still rape her. how did come out, decades these two heroes of yours had an argument in their local cafe. the second soldier accused the fist soldier of raping and killing the young lady. the first soldier laughed at his face and said "and you raped her after i killed her". and thats how it came out into the public domain. and what cation exactly did the police take after hearing this. yeah you guessed it. arsholes the lot of you, with the usual exceptions.......

[Sotos]

And where exactly did you read those things? In the "Turkish lies to excuse the Turkish crimes" book? Lordo, when it comes to civilization we are far better than you. Period.

[Cap]

you mean like the two boys they kicked the shit out of a few years back.

the groc system of justice is the same as it was in 1963 and unleashed onto the tc population. you boys have a long way to go before you can even smell like a civilised nation. a lot dirty washing to be done before that.


i was reading trhe other day about the account of two gc soldiers who came across a tc girl. one of them raped her repeatedly and eventually killed her. second one asked why he killed her before he had a chance to rape her too. the first replied the body is still work you can still rape her. how did come out, decades these two heroes of yours had an argument in their local cafe. the second soldier accused the fist soldier of raping and killing the young lady. the first soldier laughed at his face and said "and you raped her after i killed her". and thats how it came out into the public domain. and what cation exactly did the police take after hearing this. yeah you guessed it. arsholes the lot of you, with the usual exceptions.......

You still smoking that foreign star and half moon red tinted good stuff eh Lordo?