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[Paphitis]

Latest news:

Russia is going for a full blown permanent military base (land/sea/air) in Syria henceforth positioning themselves right in the center of ME affairs and potentially in control of regional oil flows as the foolish Americans are left reeling at how this whole fiasco has backfired so badly right in their face!

At long last... good times ahead and especially for Cyprus!

it is more serious than that. they also have iran under their influence and via iran iraq too. so the americans have managed to give both syria and iraq to the russians. you could not make it up if you tried.

What the hell are you talking about?

Syria was always aligned with the Russians. The Iraqis are aligned with us and Iran is becoming a good friend.

[boomerang]

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/315966-putin-syria-us-assad/

[Paphitis]

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/315966-putin-syria-us-assad/

The USA doesn't like Russia's involvement because regime change is very much on the cards at a later date with things calm down.

We see this as the only way to actually stop this war indefinitely, otherwise this is going to go on for decades.

What the Russians need to do, is start working with the coalition and help negotiate a transition with Assad at the helm in the shorter term and assist with defeating all the radical extremists such as DAESH.

Either that, or Assad is going to have to allow some power sharing situation with Sunnis.

[boomerang]

But that's not what the article is really saying...the yanks actually got caught with their hand in the cookie jar...this is what the article is saying...
There is no way in hell turkey could have pull these stunts without orders from the yanks...where they differ is each one wants their own puppet in syria...
Yes ISIS is a manifestation of the US...

[Paphitis]

But that's not what the article is really saying...the yanks actually got caught with their hand in the cookie jar...this is what the article is saying...
There is no way in hell turkey could have pull these stunts without orders from the yanks...where they differ is each one wants their own puppet in syria...
Yes ISIS is a manifestation of the US...

I did t read the entire article and don't intend to. I lose interest very quickly when I doubt the source.

Turkey can pull a number of stunts without any orders however, it seems evident that it can't continue to do so and as such has ceased using this as a means to marginalize the Kurds. I am assuming that this is what you are referring to.

They got dragged over the coals, and it is no coincidence that other countries are now operating within Syrian Airspace, namely France, Australia and Canada.

[Get Real!]

Russia Moves Its First Tactical Fighter Jets to Base in Syria

The jets, believed to be Sukhoi Su-27s, which are designed for air-to-air combat, could be used to challenge U.S. planes flying over Syria or to help Syrian forces defending the Assad regime.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-defense ... 1442589965

http://cdn.topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012 ... 863561.jpg

[boomerang]

But that's not what the article is really saying...the yanks actually got caught with their hand in the cookie jar...this is what the article is saying...
There is no way in hell turkey could have pull these stunts without orders from the yanks...where they differ is each one wants their own puppet in syria...
Yes ISIS is a manifestation of the US...

I did t read the entire article and don't intend to. I lose interest very quickly when I doubt the source.

Turkey can pull a number of stunts without any orders however, it seems evident that it can't continue to do so and as such has ceased using this as a means to marginalize the Kurds. I am assuming that this is what you are referring to.

They got dragged over the coals, and it is no coincidence that other countries are now operating within Syrian Airspace, namely France, Australia and Canada.

I reckon you read the article but you refuse to comment coz it goes contra to what you believe...the article nailed it...ISIS is a creation of the US simple as that...

[Paphitis]

But that's not what the article is really saying...the yanks actually got caught with their hand in the cookie jar...this is what the article is saying...
There is no way in hell turkey could have pull these stunts without orders from the yanks...where they differ is each one wants their own puppet in syria...
Yes ISIS is a manifestation of the US...

I did t read the entire article and don't intend to. I lose interest very quickly when I doubt the source.

Turkey can pull a number of stunts without any orders however, it seems evident that it can't continue to do so and as such has ceased using this as a means to marginalize the Kurds. I am assuming that this is what you are referring to.

They got dragged over the coals, and it is no coincidence that other countries are now operating within Syrian Airspace, namely France, Australia and Canada.

I reckon you read the article but you refuse to comment coz it goes contra to what you believe...the article nailed it...ISIS is a creation of the US simple as that...

I could only bear to read the first 2 paragraphs. The mere fact that this was a Russia Today article is enough for me to not take it too seriously.

Let's be realistic here. If they refuse to be Putin's mouthpiece, what do you think will happen to their journalists and to the network. This is a country where a few dozen journalists have mysteriously been whacked on the streets.

And you are right. I do not agree that the USA is responsible for ISIS. If that is the case, then why did they chew on the hand (USA) that fed them by attacking the Iraqis? They would have had it good if they would just do as they are told, not bight the hands that support them.

I'm afraid if we are to be accused of supporting a group in Syria, then it would be a lot more believable to say that the USA is responsible for the FSA which btw are also fighting against ISIS.

[boomerang]

Oh phaphitis lets switch to fox news instead....they seemed to be the only ones with the truth...

Ever occur to you this is what the yanks want...you ever wondered as to why isis fighters were just walking freely through turkey....ever wondered as to why they were receiving medical from their injuries in turkey....ever wodered as to why turkey was supplying them US arms....ever wondered as to why if the yanks were against isis allowed all of the above...especially turkey giving freely US arms to isis and the US staying silent when they were supposed to be against isis?

So who is responcible for isis?....the russians, the chinese...who exactly?

[supporttheunderdog]

Erdo is likely playing games of his own; he does not want a strong Free Kurdish area as exists under the current Iraqi regime and he does not want a strong Syria: with weak regimes in Syria and Iraq it boosts his possibilities of neo-Ottoman imperialism. knowing that at the moment the USA needs him for the bases near neo-Tsarist Russia and generally in the middle east he can get away with a lot. He cannot be openly toppled - the USA may be trying through Gulen - But Erdo is using show trials, etc to intimidate the military, and to crush internal dissent. What is needed is for AKP to be defeated at the ballot box, then his presidential plans will fall. He is losing support.

With the tottering Turkish economy he is probably losing middle class/industrial support so slowly it might happen.