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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:26 pm

sivmetavm wrote:It's either federation or division.


We'll wait it out until this binary atrocity expands into more options.
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:34 pm

sivmetavm wrote:It's either federation or division. And political parties such as EDEK and DEKO should make up their minds and choose what they honestly want. Because anything else after 41 years of division is catastrophic (at least for the GC side)

Neither. What’s best for Cyprus is a unitary state.

The Russian ME takeover is a regional game changer which includes the CyProb.

For now the RoC would be well advised to pull out of all talks with the Turkish aggressor because the balance of power is changing fast around here.
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:14 am

DrCyprus wrote:
sivmetavm wrote:It's either federation or division.


We'll wait it out until this binary atrocity expands into more options.


there is no federation in the past plans(including Annan) but more of a confederation that will be destructive to the whole of Cyprus. When a mere 18% of the population has the authority to veto or choose policy for the majority and also have the power to discriminate on the basis of race/religion then the end result is full destruction.
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:03 am

...i ask, is America a Unitary State, is Canada? Is Russia?
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:57 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...i ask, is America a Unitary State, is Canada? Is Russia?


The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.


Are we there yet,RW?
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:55 am

...my point being that they are Federations, that while internally they can be identified as the Persons of their own choosing, as Individuals it is not hard to identify their intentions.
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:13 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...my point being that they are Federations, that while internally they can be identified as the Persons of their own choosing, as Individuals it is not hard to identify their intentions.


In Cyprus we can't even go past freedom of speech....this can only mean bad intentions.....
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:53 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
DrCyprus wrote:
sivmetavm wrote:It's either federation or division.


We'll wait it out until this binary atrocity expands into more options.


there is no federation in the past plans(including Annan) but more of a confederation that will be destructive to the whole of Cyprus. When a mere 18% of the population has the authority to veto or choose policy for the majority and also have the power to discriminate on the basis of race/religion then the end result is full destruction.

the whole point of bbf is that one side will not dictate to the other reh goottago.
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:00 pm

Lordo wrote:the whole point of bbf is that one side will not dictate to the other reh goottago.

You mean like in Turkey where the majority does not dictate to 15 million Kurds? :)

Forget the double standards Lordo… there’s a new kid in town and he has turned the region on its head. :wink:

It's over... mark my words.
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Re: What is a Federation and is it good for Cyprus?

Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:44 pm

Lordo wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
DrCyprus wrote:
sivmetavm wrote:It's either federation or division.


We'll wait it out until this binary atrocity expands into more options.


there is no federation in the past plans(including Annan) but more of a confederation that will be destructive to the whole of Cyprus. When a mere 18% of the population has the authority to veto or choose policy for the majority and also have the power to discriminate on the basis of race/religion then the end result is full destruction.

the whole point of bbf is that one side will not dictate to the other reh goottago.


Dictate what? All go back to their villages with civil rights guarantee for the minority Turk Cyps.. Their civil rights will be guaranteed through the Eu..
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