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[Oceanside50]

Temporary ? 25 years is not temporary...in the meantime knowing what we know about constituent states there will be an abundance of laws created to insure the the Tc keep their majority...therefore you've answered my question and yours...why is it out of anyone's realm of understanding that a tax could be imposed on Gc properties from the first day or language requirements to insure the Tc majority, which would be legal ... Or should we take the Tc as a benevolent minority and allow themselves to be overrun by Gc ? An Annan plan is the first step towards partition...

[erolz66]

Temporary ? 25 years is not temporary...

The temporary restrictions in the Annan plan were 19 years from it coming in to force and yes I am afraid that IS temporary. That you can even try and claim it is not, just show the madness we are in here.

in the meantime knowing what we know about constituent states

You call a provision that explicitly has a 19 year time limit on it NOT temporary and grossly and blatantly try and distort what the Annan plan actually said and expect to be taken seriously when you then say "knowing what we know about constituent states" ? You do not even know what truth is and what a lie is .

[Oceanside50]

..and through your demented logic the self imposed enclaves for the Tc was also temporary and so was the temporary embargo on the Tc therefore they both were ok...it's ok to temporarily treat the majority and their landownership as second class citizens for 19 or 25 years because it's "only" temporary...another good joke from the freedom/rights loving Tc

[Oceanside50]

Temporary ? 25 years is not temporary...

The temporary restrictions in the Annan plan were 19 years from it coming in to force and yes I am afraid that IS temporary. That you can even try and claim it is not, just show the madness we are in here.

in the meantime knowing what we know about constituent states

You call a provision that explicitly has a 19 year time limit on it NOT temporary and grossly and blatantly try and distort what the Annan plan actually said and expect to be taken seriously when you then say "knowing what we know about constituent states" ? You do not even know what truth is and what a lie is .

temporary was also the veto you jokers got in Zurich

[cypriotnado]

Temporary ? 25 years is not temporary...

The temporary restrictions in the Annan plan were 19 years from it coming in to force and yes I am afraid that IS temporary. That you can even try and claim it is not, just show the madness we are in here.

in the meantime knowing what we know about constituent states

You call a provision that explicitly has a 19 year time limit on it NOT temporary and grossly and blatantly try and distort what the Annan plan actually said and expect to be taken seriously when you then say "knowing what we know about constituent states" ? You do not even know what truth is and what a lie is .

temporary was also the veto you jokers got in Zurich

Sticking rigidly to ones principles is great but you achieve nothing in the long term. I agree Annan is past but if it had been agreed by 2018 we would only have some 600 turkish troops ( that's probably abt what was on the island living in enclaves pre 74)

At the last referendum some 40,000 settlers were counted now it's 160,000. As in Israel proper this gets to a point where it's irreversible. But hey stick to your principles

[Lordo]

Temporary ? 25 years is not temporary...

The temporary restrictions in the Annan plan were 19 years from it coming in to force and yes I am afraid that IS temporary. That you can even try and claim it is not, just show the madness we are in here.

in the meantime knowing what we know about constituent states

You call a provision that explicitly has a 19 year time limit on it NOT temporary and grossly and blatantly try and distort what the Annan plan actually said and expect to be taken seriously when you then say "knowing what we know about constituent states" ? You do not even know what truth is and what a lie is .

temporary was also the veto you jokers got in Zurich

really so how come it is still there in the constitution. you stupid boy. and it will be in the new one too. you will never control the tcs no matter what. get over it.

[Sotos]

Temporary ? 25 years is not temporary...

The temporary restrictions in the Annan plan were 19 years from it coming in to force and yes I am afraid that IS temporary. That you can even try and claim it is not, just show the madness we are in here.

in the meantime knowing what we know about constituent states

You call a provision that explicitly has a 19 year time limit on it NOT temporary and grossly and blatantly try and distort what the Annan plan actually said and expect to be taken seriously when you then say "knowing what we know about constituent states" ? You do not even know what truth is and what a lie is .

temporary was also the veto you jokers got in Zurich

really so how come it is still there in the constitution. you stupid boy. and it will be in the new one too. you will never control the tcs no matter what. get over it.

We don't want to control the TCs. We want to control our island. As long as our freedom is restricted there will not be permanent peace.

[Sotos]

The temporary restrictions in the Annan plan were 19 years from it coming in to force and yes I am afraid that IS temporary. That you can even try and claim it is not, just show the madness we are in here.

Erolz, you admitted yourself that there was another paragraph in the Annan plan that would allow the TCs to extend that period. From what I remember there were a lot of conflicting provisions and things that could have different interpretations. If we had voted for the Annan plan then we would be killing each other already by now. Another thing is that with the Annan plan the TCs would get EVERYTHING from the first day while we were just given a promise that we would get our share of benefits from the solution after years or decades and there was nothing to guarantee that this would ever happen. Either both sides should get everything from day one or none should. For example the TCs could start as a minority with no special rights and then get any additional rights gradually at the same pace as they return the land, the properties and the Turkish army and Settlers withdraw.

[Oceanside50]

Interpretation of the plan( federal law) usually is performed by the federal Supreme Court. As the Annan plan stated, the federal and constituent courts are all equal, therefore interpretation of the federal law would come from the state supreme courts (Tc,Gc). The Tc have always wanted a confederate interpretation and the Gc a federal interpretation. Any laws that come into question will be interpreted on a confederation criteria, meaning that laws the Tc pass through their states parliament will be the laws of the Tc with no further review. The derogations become law and are enhanced by further laws from the Tc constituent state.

[Lordo]

reh sottarui ma are you telling me that you still have not realised that the whole island does not belong to you alone and hence you cannot control the whole island. gavle ma alobos eshis sgada mes kellesu.