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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby Maximus » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:40 pm

what are you talking about dude?

How do you think the north and south of the island will be united when the north is full of Turkish settlers and both regions cannot agree on any front? Do you think that the RoC is going to unite with psuedo-Turkey to create one country?
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:41 pm

miltiades wrote:Cyprus is the home of all Cypriots, the moment that Cypriots embrace Cyprus as their one and only one motherland and tell Turkey and Greece to fuck of the better for all of us.
Cyprus is our NATION.OUR ETHNOS.Those with other ideas, do us all a favour and piss off to Turkey or Greece.


...i thought it was Cap writing for a second. Yiasou milti, this is why i call you dr.

It has taken years, sadly i think it will be taken further, but at the brink, i like to imagine that Cypriots, are Cypriots. In any case Cypriots are no longer just, "Greeks" and "Turks", Cypriots, the other half i like to call them, also (read: still) exist.
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:50 pm

Maximus wrote:what are you talking about dude?

How do you think the north and south of the island will be united when it is full of settlers and both regions cannot agree on any front?


Intention. It is possible that both Akinci, and Anastasiades agree, there is one Cyprus, what happens within it is a matter for Cypriots. Settlers are Turkey's problem for the most part, many may become Cypriots, why not. Property i understand is solved with the property owner having the first choice in what to do, that ownership is respected, and recognised. Reparations will be paid, Turkey has admitted to their guilt with the creation of the IPC, bills will be paid, i think, in water.

...what is needed is another level of government where as constituencies, Cypriot Constituencies, can exist.
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby Maximus » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:19 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Maximus wrote:what are you talking about dude?

How do you think the north and south of the island will be united when it is full of settlers and both regions cannot agree on any front?


Intention. It is possible that both Akinci, and Anastasiades agree, there is one Cyprus, what happens within it is a matter for Cypriots. Settlers are Turkey's problem for the most part, many may become Cypriots, why not. Property i understand is solved with the property owner having the first choice in what to do, that ownership is respected, and recognised. Reparations will be paid, Turkey has admitted to their guilt with the creation of the IPC, bills will be paid, i think, in water.

...what is needed is another level of government where as constituencies, Cypriot Constituencies, can exist.


Akinci does not want to give back any of Turkeys gains and wants Turkeys "guarantor" to remain,

He also wants the settlers to stay, he wants a veto, plus shares and a Turkish president for one, out of every 5 years.

Basically, he wants the problem to be the solution and he has not agreed to anything with Anastasiadis yet.
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:03 pm

Maximus wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
Maximus wrote:what are you talking about dude?

How do you think the north and south of the island will be united when it is full of settlers and both regions cannot agree on any front?


Intention. It is possible that both Akinci, and Anastasiades agree, there is one Cyprus, what happens within it is a matter for Cypriots. Settlers are Turkey's problem for the most part, many may become Cypriots, why not. Property i understand is solved with the property owner having the first choice in what to do, that ownership is respected, and recognised. Reparations will be paid, Turkey has admitted to their guilt with the creation of the IPC, bills will be paid, i think, in water.

...what is needed is another level of government where as constituencies, Cypriot Constituencies, can exist.


Akinci does not want to give back any of Turkeys gains and wants Turkeys "guarantor" to remain,

He also wants the settlers to stay, he wants a veto, plus shares and a Turkish president for one, out of every 5 years.

Basically, he wants the problem to be the solution and he has not agreed to anything with Anastasiadis yet.

listen thicko, akinci spoke for 45 minutes to the reporters and said no such thing. he said not only the rights of the original owners but also the current owners right will be respected all under eu principles. there will be rules that will apply to all cypriots with a new ipc with equal number of tc/gc members.

he has said territory and security has not been discussed yet, private property has and they have a solution. the original owners rights will be respected. he also said the guarantee will not be discussed with just two leaders the brits the terggs and the griiks will join the talks when it coms to security. the contact signed in 1960 cannot be just withdrawn on the wishes of one or two parties. all five have to agree.
get it into your thick head that you aint in charge and you dont dictate terms. he also said it cannot right in an equal partnership tat we cannot have a tc president so it will rotate. nothing has been agreed as to how often as yet. your bullshitting rejectionists media is playing you like a snake with their fiddle and low and behold your ugly serpent head appears above the basket.
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby Maximus » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:35 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
Maximus wrote:what are you talking about dude?

How do you think the north and south of the island will be united when it is full of settlers and both regions cannot agree on any front?


Intention. It is possible that both Akinci, and Anastasiades agree, there is one Cyprus, what happens within it is a matter for Cypriots. Settlers are Turkey's problem for the most part, many may become Cypriots, why not. Property i understand is solved with the property owner having the first choice in what to do, that ownership is respected, and recognised. Reparations will be paid, Turkey has admitted to their guilt with the creation of the IPC, bills will be paid, i think, in water.

...what is needed is another level of government where as constituencies, Cypriot Constituencies, can exist.


Akinci does not want to give back any of Turkeys gains and wants Turkeys "guarantor" to remain,

He also wants the settlers to stay, he wants a veto, plus shares and a Turkish president for one, out of every 5 years.

Basically, he wants the problem to be the solution and he has not agreed to anything with Anastasiadis yet.

listen thicko, akinci spoke for 45 minutes to the reporters and said no such thing. he said not only the rights of the original owners but also the current owners right will be respected all under eu principles. there will be rules that will apply to all cypriots with a new ipc with equal number of tc/gc members.

he has said territory and security has not been discussed yet, private property has and they have a solution. the original owners rights will be respected. he also said the guarantee will not be discussed with just two leaders the brits the terggs and the griiks will join the talks when it coms to security. the contact signed in 1960 cannot be just withdrawn on the wishes of one or two parties. all five have to agree.
get it into your thick head that you aint in charge and you dont dictate terms. he also said it cannot right in an equal partnership tat we cannot have a tc president so it will rotate. nothing has been agreed as to how often as yet. your bullshitting rejectionists media is playing you like a snake with their fiddle and low and behold your ugly serpent head appears above the basket.


Ela thicko

Isn't this from a Turkish paper?

Akıncı dismissed claims of returning land that is currently being controlled by Turkish Cyprus to Greek Cyprus. Akıncı said: "Our aim is to make an agreement that is in accordance with international law :lol: and will protect the rights of both sides." He said his administration regards the system of a rotating presidency as an indispensable part of political equality in the peace talks. With the reunification talks reaching a critical phase, Akıncı said that significant topics are property, land and Turkey's guarantor position. Though both Turkish Cyprus and Turkey aim to keep the guarantor position

http://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/201 ... eace-talks

The Tc's never had a rotating presidency before. Why now?

He has also dismissed the return of any territory which the majority of it belongs to GC's.

So this new IPC thicko, who is going to compensate the GC's when the existing one was offering 1/10th of the true value of the stolen property and it is broke after compensating a handful of claims? :lol: The only rights the settlers have is that they cant be turfed to the street and made homeless. Turkey did not care about these rights when she ethnically cleansed 180k people from their ancestral homes. So Turkey should find accommodation for these settlers and take them back.

If he wants to follow international law, then Turkey should withdraw. The illegal settlers do not have any rights in Cyprus under any international law. If he wants to follow EU principles, then he cant have a rotating presidency because he is a muslim or a Turk AND Cyprus has to be democratic. Cyprus, as an EU member state does not need or want Turkeys guarantors either besides the FACT that Turkey has invalidated that agreement already and the other guarantors have not and are not enforcing it.
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby Maximus » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:57 pm

This new IPC alone with cause a lot of civil unrest.

TC : you cant have your property back.
GC : why not
TC : because we say so
GC : compensate me then
TC : we cant, we are broke
GC : give me my property back then
TC : No, we have equal say
GC : you thick ******
TC : dont try to dominate me
GC : give me my property back, who is trying to dominate who?
TC : No, it belongs to us. In 1960's you did this and that and this and that and this and that and this and that and blah blah blahhhhh... and Turkey will come back to protect us and take the rest of the island and blah blah. Allu Ahkbar.
GC : just go back to Turkey pal, enough with your BS.
TC : I'm Cypriuuut.
Gc : :roll:
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:19 pm

Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:GR's option of another war sounds good to me. Lets have one last war but this time it has to be winner takes all :lol:

I agree 100%. So when do you plan to ask Turkey to step aside so you can come out and start EARNING YOUR WAY on this island for once?

Show us what you’re worth… :wink:

Come on M, surely the TC's couldn't do this on their own, everyone knows that. It would be a Zonda against a Fiat 500, Tyson against you or me, USA against the faroe Islands.

I don’t think so… a GCs vs TCs war is a lot more balanced than your spineless dream of a (Turkey + TCs) vs GCs!

If you admit military inferiority against the CNG then you shouldn’t be making any claims to “power”!

You know what? I've been thinking back to 63 and how our brave fathers, uncles and cousins defended us with shotguns and slingshots. We have proper arms now and have big balls too, It may well be a fair fight after all. Let's hope those that really matter (you and I couldn't start a war) decide to go to war one day. One last fight Rumble In The Jungle. Winner keeps all. Brilliant. :lol:
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:38 am

cypriotnado wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The country is under illegal occupation.

Can't be asking for peace whilst pointing a gun to our heads. Sorry but you can jam it.

As the Mayor of Kephalonia said: "FUCK OFF"



So you are saying an absolute NO to any kind of talks unless the islands occupation ends. OK I will phone Anastasiades and let him know that he should STOP now. :o


It's not up to Anastasiades!

No matter what, it's up to the Cypriot people, and if they feel threatened by what are effectively threats and blackmail, they will tell you to FUCK OFF just like before. Anastasiades knows this fact very well so don't ever think he will commit political suicide and dictate to the people something they find incomprehensible.
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Re: are you ready for peace.

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:58 am

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
Maximus wrote:what are you talking about dude?

How do you think the north and south of the island will be united when it is full of settlers and both regions cannot agree on any front?


Intention. It is possible that both Akinci, and Anastasiades agree, there is one Cyprus, what happens within it is a matter for Cypriots. Settlers are Turkey's problem for the most part, many may become Cypriots, why not. Property i understand is solved with the property owner having the first choice in what to do, that ownership is respected, and recognised. Reparations will be paid, Turkey has admitted to their guilt with the creation of the IPC, bills will be paid, i think, in water.

...what is needed is another level of government where as constituencies, Cypriot Constituencies, can exist.


Akinci does not want to give back any of Turkeys gains and wants Turkeys "guarantor" to remain,

He also wants the settlers to stay, he wants a veto, plus shares and a Turkish president for one, out of every 5 years.

Basically, he wants the problem to be the solution and he has not agreed to anything with Anastasiadis yet.

listen thicko, akinci spoke for 45 minutes to the reporters and said no such thing. he said not only the rights of the original owners but also the current owners right will be respected all under eu principles. there will be rules that will apply to all cypriots with a new ipc with equal number of tc/gc members.

he has said territory and security has not been discussed yet, private property has and they have a solution. the original owners rights will be respected. he also said the guarantee will not be discussed with just two leaders the brits the terggs and the griiks will join the talks when it coms to security. the contact signed in 1960 cannot be just withdrawn on the wishes of one or two parties. all five have to agree.
get it into your thick head that you aint in charge and you dont dictate terms. he also said it cannot right in an equal partnership tat we cannot have a tc president so it will rotate. nothing has been agreed as to how often as yet. your bullshitting rejectionists media is playing you like a snake with their fiddle and low and behold your ugly serpent head appears above the basket.


Ela thicko

Isn't this from a Turkish paper?

Akıncı dismissed claims of returning land that is currently being controlled by Turkish Cyprus to Greek Cyprus. Akıncı said: "Our aim is to make an agreement that is in accordance with international law :lol: and will protect the rights of both sides." He said his administration regards the system of a rotating presidency as an indispensable part of political equality in the peace talks. With the reunification talks reaching a critical phase, Akıncı said that significant topics are property, land and Turkey's guarantor position. Though both Turkish Cyprus and Turkey aim to keep the guarantor position

http://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/201 ... eace-talks

The Tc's never had a rotating presidency before. Why now?

He has also dismissed the return of any territory which the majority of it belongs to GC's.

So this new IPC thicko, who is going to compensate the GC's when the existing one was offering 1/10th of the true value of the stolen property and it is broke after compensating a handful of claims? :lol: The only rights the settlers have is that they cant be turfed to the street and made homeless. Turkey did not care about these rights when she ethnically cleansed 180k people from their ancestral homes. So Turkey should find accommodation for these settlers and take them back.

If he wants to follow international law, then Turkey should withdraw. The illegal settlers do not have any rights in Cyprus under any international law. If he wants to follow EU principles, then he cant have a rotating presidency because he is a muslim or a Turk AND Cyprus has to be democratic. Cyprus, as an EU member state does not need or want Turkeys guarantors either besides the FACT that Turkey has invalidated that agreement already and the other guarantors have not and are not enforcing it.

ey thicko do you always believe what you read in the terggish newspapers.
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