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[Maximus]

I dont think they understand that they (turkey and mostly the AKP) have pissed off practically everyone in the region.

the repercussions will be economic, domestic and civil violence is likely between party loyalists, the PKK and ISIS cells and what is looking like war with neighbors on several fronts.

[umit07]

let me do a loose translation for Mr who is preying for the deep state to save Turkey.

Iran closed her border with Turkey which will hit Turkish, (mostly land based exports) to eastern markets hard. They will have to take a more costly route through Georgia or an even more costly route through war stricken Syria.

Iran wants to show solidarity with the Kurds and keep them happy while Kurdistan is being establish.

Thanks Max.

You're forgetting that Iran has a sizable Kurdish population, they have their own version of PKK, YPJ to deal with PJAK. The Iranian foreign ministry denied any border closure, the Kurds have been used by outside forces for decades, things don't look like they have changed.

[umit07]

Exactly, seems Paphiti would sell his mother for the right money. Prick, just listen to yourself, and you call yourself a patriot, hade gamisou.
Even the Turks are seeing your two faced hypocrisy.

B25, who is a real patriot, yourself? Your type of attitude will get Cyprus nowhere, waiting for Turkey to implode and expecting to benefit from this somehow is a flawed strategy.

What is the alternative umit?

Accept a Turkish apartheid and that the north of Cyprus belongs to the settlers and Turkey?

At least the true patriots can fly them to Ercan via Turkish Airlines..

The alternative is to be rational, antagonizing one another will get you nowhere.

[Cap]

I don't care much for the collapsing of enemies or the rising of allies. They're looking after their own interests.

I'm more concerned about the RoC... focusing on our strengths, raising our standards, strengthening our economy, creating wealth, promoting our tourism, exports, culture etc.

[Zenon33]

I don't care much for the collapsing of enemies or the rising of allies. They're looking after their own interests.

I'm more concerned about the RoC... focusing on our strengths, raising our standards, strengthening our economy, creating wealth, promoting our tourism, exports, culture etc.

Agree Cap. But a weak Turkey (our first enemy, and for many people our only enemy) is better for us.

[Kikapu]

They will be able to get to Cyprus easily too to spebd with family - through ERCAN obviously but who cares now considering the way these guys were treated in Cyprus. Only one of the guys at CA will have major issues and understandably so.

WTF , GC's including yourself have constantly referred to Ercan as an illegal this, illegal that. Now you are promoting Turkish Airlines and encouraging using Ercan as a "selling point" for working there, what has the world come to.

On another note, I've been following THYAO stock for a while, waiting for a plummet in the Turkish stock market before I buy. I believe Turkish Airlines will rival the Lufthansa Group within the next ten years.

Umit, don't waste your foreign money on THYAO, which is priced and traded in TRY. In the last 2 years alone, the TRY has lost approx. 30% each year against major world currencies. The stock needs to appreciate 30%+ a year (more like 50% a year) before you will see any benefits, plus the cost of buying and selling the stock, plus big taxes on gains, if any, on short term held stock if you sell them. You will do a much better and safer return on your money if you kept your foreign currency under a mattress and only take it out when you want to convert it to TRY, than buying any TRY based stocks, specially an airline stock. One has to be a total masochist to do that.

[Maximus]

Exactly, seems Paphiti would sell his mother for the right money. Prick, just listen to yourself, and you call yourself a patriot, hade gamisou.
Even the Turks are seeing your two faced hypocrisy.

B25, who is a real patriot, yourself? Your type of attitude will get Cyprus nowhere, waiting for Turkey to implode and expecting to benefit from this somehow is a flawed strategy.

What is the alternative umit?

Accept a Turkish apartheid and that the north of Cyprus belongs to the settlers and Turkey?

At least the true patriots can fly them to Ercan via Turkish Airlines..

The alternative is to be rational, antagonizing one another will get you nowhere.

Sounds good,

so is your idea of rationality to accept a Turkish apartheid as a solution for Cyprys because the Turks want that and that the north of Cyprus belongs to Turkey and the settlers now.

or is your idea of rationality more along the lines of;

Its not rational for Turkey to occupy the north of Cyprus in contravention of international law, or to keep what she has stolen from the GC's or to transfer her population there and declare it as an independent and separate state or demand an apartheid as a solution.

or what?

[Maximus]

They will be able to get to Cyprus easily too to spebd with family - through ERCAN obviously but who cares now considering the way these guys were treated in Cyprus. Only one of the guys at CA will have major issues and understandably so.

WTF , GC's including yourself have constantly referred to Ercan as an illegal this, illegal that. Now you are promoting Turkish Airlines and encouraging using Ercan as a "selling point" for working there, what has the world come to.

On another note, I've been following THYAO stock for a while, waiting for a plummet in the Turkish stock market before I buy. I believe Turkish Airlines will rival the Lufthansa Group within the next ten years.

Umit, don't waste your foreign money on THYAO, which is priced and traded in TRY. In the last 2 years alone, the TRY has lost approx. 30% each year against major world currencies. The stock needs to appreciate 30%+ a year (more like 50% a year) before you will see any benefits, plus the cost of buying and selling the stock, plus big taxes on gains, if any, on short term held stock if you sell them. You will do a much better and safer return on your money if you kept your foreign currency under a mattress and only take it out when you want to convert it to TRY, than buying any TRY based stocks, specially an airline stock. One has to be a total masochist to do that.

In addition to this, Turkish airlines reports an earnings per share of 11 US cents per share for the first quarter of this year. It cost approximately $3.20 per share to buy in to the company today. So if nothing else changes, it will take about 7 years and 3 months just to break even. This is not taking in to account transaction costs, taxes and exchange rate risk. BUT the company does NOT pay a dividend.

In other words, the company has to grow its earnings per share at a higher rate than the rate of exchange devaluation, beat inflation, cover transaction costs and taxes for you, as a foreign investor, just to break even, hopefully in 7 years and 3 months. BUT, as a shareholder, you are not entitled to a dividend.

In more other words, its not a financially sound investment today and the probabilities are stacked against it being a sound investment for tomorrow.

[cypriotnado]

Exactly, seems Paphiti would sell his mother for the right money. Prick, just listen to yourself, and you call yourself a patriot, hade gamisou.
Even the Turks are seeing your two faced hypocrisy.

B25, who is a real patriot, yourself? Your type of attitude will get Cyprus nowhere, waiting for Turkey to implode and expecting to benefit from this somehow is a flawed strategy.

What is the alternative umit?

Accept a Turkish apartheid and that the north of Cyprus belongs to the settlers and Turkey?

At least the true patriots can fly them to Ercan via Turkish Airlines..

The alternative is to be rational, antagonizing one another will get you nowhere.

Sounds good,

so is your idea of rationality to accept a Turkish apartheid as a solution for Cyprys because the Turks want that and that the north of Cyprus belongs to Turkey and the settlers now.

or is your idea of rationality more along the lines of;

Its not rational for Turkey to occupy the north of Cyprus in contravention of international law, or to keep what she has stolen from the GC's or to transfer her population there and declare it as an independent and separate state or demand an apartheid as a solution.

or what?

You rejectionists are just COWARDS. What you really seek is partition as that's the only alternative to a federal solution.The settlers are not just going to all pack up and leave, the Turkish Cypriots are not going to say oh we want a return to pre 74 Cyprus. So the only option your proposing is Partition. If The ROC turns round now and says no to any solution based on what has been agreed for years a federal Cyprus the international community will simply recognise the occupied North. That is what Turkey and Turkish Cypriot rejectionists are hoping.

Stop worrying abt Turkish airlines. Uber the taxi service was valued at more then Fives times the combined wealth of all greek banks. That's worrying!

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/04/news/co ... res-crash/

[kurupetos]

I don't care much for the collapsing of enemies or the rising of allies. They're looking after their own interests.

I'm more concerned about the RoC... focusing on our strengths, raising our standards, strengthening our economy, creating wealth, promoting our tourism, exports, culture etc.

Agree Cap. But a weak Turkey (our first enemy, and for many people our only enemy) is better for us.

I have been repeating this for the last 8 years. Finally someone got it. Thank God.