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[insan]

Insan, nowhere did I say our problems happened all of a sudden. The only time points I mentioned were the two definite attempts by Turkey (1964 and 1974) to carry out her aim of grabbing half of Cyprus. These plans were known before and Britain's recently released files state categorically how, in the 1950s, Turkey was brought into the equation (an external force) to destroy peace in Cyprus through isolating them from Greece. The Cyprus Greece connection was the only natural solution known to all as it was this which was being played out before Britain was due to give up her illegal rule over Cyprus. Nowhere was Turkey mentioned as natural progress for Cyprus-peace relations, but indeed, Turkey was a known tool to destruction!

That the TCs are also external problems was again re-enforced by the Brits (I don't really care for their opinion on all matters but merely bring them up here as the supposedly middle-ground - and for being ex-rulers). TCs were given the option to leave (because they are external) back in the 1920s. Most stayed but they didn't settle nicely (as asked by the Brits) and once again the issue of the TCs (being external) was brought up, again, by the Brits in the 1960s and a solution was offered, again, which was to assist them to go to Turkey. Removal of the TCs was known as the means for Cyprus to have peace. If these, then, Brits had been listened to and the Turk-loving TCs had been moved to Turkey then, 1974 would never have happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, GIG... if you really believe that it was engineered for in-depth reasons, what would and what will follow it; should have also been engineered... still seems inevitable to expect the otherwise... whoever believes that it was engineered by some super powers, should also belive what it says in the following link...

http://www.texemarrs.com/082013/jews_are_khazars.htm

[GreekIslandGirl]

Insan, nowhere did I say our problems happened all of a sudden. The only time points I mentioned were the two definite attempts by Turkey (1964 and 1974) to carry out her aim of grabbing half of Cyprus. These plans were known before and Britain's recently released files state categorically how, in the 1950s, Turkey was brought into the equation (an external force) to destroy peace in Cyprus through isolating them from Greece. The Cyprus Greece connection was the only natural solution known to all as it was this which was being played out before Britain was due to give up her illegal rule over Cyprus. Nowhere was Turkey mentioned as natural progress for Cyprus-peace relations, but indeed, Turkey was a known tool to destruction!

That the TCs are also external problems was again re-enforced by the Brits (I don't really care for their opinion on all matters but merely bring them up here as the supposedly middle-ground - and for being ex-rulers). TCs were given the option to leave (because they are external) back in the 1920s. Most stayed but they didn't settle nicely (as asked by the Brits) and once again the issue of the TCs (being external) was brought up, again, by the Brits in the 1960s and a solution was offered, again, which was to assist them to go to Turkey. Removal of the TCs was known as the means for Cyprus to have peace. If these, then, Brits had been listened to and the Turk-loving TCs had been moved to Turkey then, 1974 would never have happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, GIG... if you really believe that it was engineered for in-depth reasons, what would and what will follow it; should have also been engineered... still seems inevitable to expect the otherwise... whoever believes that it was engineered by some super powers, should also belive what it says in the following link...

http://www.texemarrs.com/082013/jews_are_khazars.htm

You don't seem to be able to understand the difference between facts and beliefs. It's not my belief that the TCs were offered passage back to Turkey, etc. Those are facts.

Unfortunately, the end result of those facts (not beliefs) is that Turkey has accomplished her aim and external TCs are sitting pretty on Greek Cypriots' property, land, beaches, wildlife, mountains - half my country!

[insan]

Insan, nowhere did I say our problems happened all of a sudden. The only time points I mentioned were the two definite attempts by Turkey (1964 and 1974) to carry out her aim of grabbing half of Cyprus. These plans were known before and Britain's recently released files state categorically how, in the 1950s, Turkey was brought into the equation (an external force) to destroy peace in Cyprus through isolating them from Greece. The Cyprus Greece connection was the only natural solution known to all as it was this which was being played out before Britain was due to give up her illegal rule over Cyprus. Nowhere was Turkey mentioned as natural progress for Cyprus-peace relations, but indeed, Turkey was a known tool to destruction!

That the TCs are also external problems was again re-enforced by the Brits (I don't really care for their opinion on all matters but merely bring them up here as the supposedly middle-ground - and for being ex-rulers). TCs were given the option to leave (because they are external) back in the 1920s. Most stayed but they didn't settle nicely (as asked by the Brits) and once again the issue of the TCs (being external) was brought up, again, by the Brits in the 1960s and a solution was offered, again, which was to assist them to go to Turkey. Removal of the TCs was known as the means for Cyprus to have peace. If these, then, Brits had been listened to and the Turk-loving TCs had been moved to Turkey then, 1974 would never have happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, GIG... if you really believe that it was engineered for in-depth reasons, what would and what will follow it; should have also been engineered... still seems inevitable to expect the otherwise... whoever believes that it was engineered by some super powers, should also belive what it says in the following link...

http://www.texemarrs.com/082013/jews_are_khazars.htm

You don't seem to be able to understand the difference between facts and beliefs. It's not my belief that the TCs were offered passage back to Turkey, etc. Those are facts.

Unfortunately, the end result of those facts (not beliefs) is that Turkey has accomplished her aim and external TCs are sitting pretty on Greek Cypriots' property, land, beaches, wildlife, mountains - half my country!

You pick up facts you wished to tell, ignore the other facts you somehow not wished to mention... what GCs were offered in the meantime what TCs offered...? there has been no offer accepted by Gcs... since British rule... if TCs sitting pretty on GC's property land, beaches, wildlife, mountains , who sits on TC's property, land, beaches, wildlife, mountains and why? Most people lost, some people won... what can we do, it's engineered by super powers... according to your mentality, the end result should have been something like this...

https://books.google.com.cy/books?id=HbkZCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA275&lpg=PA275&dq=british+subjects+cyprus&source=bl&ots=97UIMTRqX_&sig=Q3ZGkFlrrDZ7sxaM99yxY0y-8PY&hl=tr&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=british%20subjects%20cyprus&f=false

The facts that were either skipped or ignored by GIG can be found and read by following the above link...

[Get Real!]

What's your age Insan?

[Garavnoss]

Is this "Titty Man" the OG? His English seems to have improved . Welcome back anyway.

[Garavnoss]

This thread went a bit "Off Topic" [as is usual whatever the subject] and the divergence did not end with a conclusion.[also as usual].

However, EVERYONE knows the truth behind the invasion of Cyprus, it was well engineered by the Yank, Brit and Israeli governments and the Turks were the obvious "Tool" to ensure that the Island of Cyprus would suffer the same divisions that have been successfully manufactured in so many other parts of the world.

I can easily envisage what the world [particularly the Middle East] would be like today if Israel WAS wiped off the map {before their expansionist actions] like the OLD myth that was incorrectly suggested some time ago in order to justify the aggression of the "Terror State",

There would probably be "Peace on Earth" [you know, like the "Christmas Spirit" is forever dreaming about] but since Israel is in full swing, we would ALL be wiser to accept the fact that for as long as there is an Israel, there will be "War on Earth".

And for as long as there are "Coons", there will be a further degrading of decency among us.

Happy Christmas everyone, dream on, our politicians will be taking the piss out of us all for many years to come, I think it must be the way we like it.

[Lordo]

this takes me back to the 50s when we employed gcs in our cotton fields. what a good idea. all gcs should return to serve tcs and there is your cyprus problem solved.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The narcotic crazed Turks grew tobacco in our Cyprus, not cotton.

[Lordo]

The narcotic crazed Turks grew tobacco in our Cyprus, not cotton.

you telling me i dont know what we grew. gavole ma ehasda gori bale. we used to grow cotton, tomatoes, potatoes, bamya, cucumber (specially for greaks for dual purpose), pakla, gafgarit, bogrulce and of course wheat and barley as well as grapes for zivania.
we also had fig, almond, olive and pomegranate trees as well as drifil for the average gc to get their greens.

[kurupetos]

this takes me back to the 50s when we employed gcs in our cotton fields. what a good idea. all gcs should return to serve tcs and there is your cyprus problem solved.

I will serve you back to Mongolia, gurgudamu.