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[Sotos]

Germans wanting to control the whole of EU is not even a secret. I didn't write the following:

while Germany is no longer a threat from a military perspective, its economic power has put intolerable pressures on other members of the Eurozone, generating instability in much the same way as its previous military power once did.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2015/ ... -politics/

The degree of the atrocities in 1974 were massive for Cyprus but on global scale obviously not the same degree as the holocaust. Let me put it otherwise: Had the Turks killed every Cypriot in 1974 wouldn't it be even more atrocious?

[erolz66]

The degree of the atrocities in 1974 were massive for Cyprus but on global scale obviously not the same degree as the holocaust. Let me put it otherwise: Had the Turks killed every Cypriot in 1974 wouldn't it be even more atrocious?

For me no.

[GreekIslandGirl]

My view is that European divisions are more about wealthism than racism. Wealthism I define as the belief that money is more important than morals.

The dictatorial initiatives we have seen emanating from our northern European brethren are due to their lust for money, needed to live a *good life* in cold, wet climes. Southern Europeans hark back to agrarianism, sea, sand and sun as harbingers of good fortune and consequently do not give money the same respect.

Therein lie our differences ...

[cypriotnado]

Britain is not alone in its refusal to help. Prague expressed a similar unwillingness to contribute.

“The Czech Republic will not give any loan to Greece, nor does it want to guarantee any loans for Greece,” Czech Finance Minister Andrej Babis said.

The Guardian: Dombrovskis confirms that:

“Concerns were raised by several non-euro states. We need to take that into account.” Seems the UK is not alone in refusing to help. So much for solidarity

[erolz66]

... and consequently do not give money the same respect...

Which is all well and fine up until the point when 'you' start asking and expecting those who do have more 'respect for money' to give 'you' theirs on 'your' terms

[GreekIslandGirl]

... and consequently do not give money the same respect...

Which is all well and fine up until the point when 'you' start asking and expecting those who do have more 'respect for money' to give 'you' theirs on 'your' terms

Greece didn't ask for more money. Greece asked to be allowed fewer harsh austerity measures. They also asked to rationalise the insane levels of compound interest they are being saddled with for money they did not ask for but was given in their name to the bankers!

Smash the plates and tear up the banknotes and dance on them! Disdain for money.

Anyway - IMF agreeing that *imaginary* fantasy debt created by bankers should now be magically reduced.

Also, everyone is ignoring no-money Brits and chequeless Czechs ...

[GreekIslandGirl]

Oh Yes! A backlash!

Despicable Duetschlanders have listened to their hearts and learned humanity from the Greeks!

Some extracts from their media on their bastardly behaviour:


" ... the German government has "destroyed seven decades of post-war diplomacy on a single weekend"."

"Merkel has managed to revive the image of the ugly, hard-hearted and stingy German that had just begun to fade".

"The German government destroyed seven decades of post-war diplomacy on a single weekend," news website Spiegel Online remarked.

Spiegel described the final deal as a "catalogue of cruelties".

The left-leaning Taz newspaper wrote that in some European countries, "they're outraged by the authoritarian and egotistical behaviour of the Germans".

"This summer, we Germans have a historic opportunity - not to behave like assholes for once."

http://europe.newsweek.com/german-media ... 84?ref=yfp

[GreekIslandGirl]

The tide of ill-feeling against German actions continues.

Habermas, widely considered one of the most influential contemporary European intellectuals, said:

- Germany had “unashamedly revealed itself as Europe’s chief disciplinarian and for the first time openly made a claim for German hegemony in Europe.”


http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... s-habermas

Hegemony - a Greek word, turned against the Greeks, and by extension all other states in the EU:

Hegemony is the geopolitical method of indirect imperial dominance, with which the hegemon (leader state) rules subordinate states, by the threat of intervention, an implied means of power, rather than by direct military force (that is, invasion, occupation, and annexation).

[GreekIslandGirl]

The march to occupy and control Greece, started in WWII, continues ...

German transport company Fraport has bought the rights to operate 14 Greek airports.

The deal entails a €1.23bn (£0.87bn, $1.36bn) payment from Fraport for the entire period of 50 years and a rent of €22.9m a year, according to Greek news website Protothema. The publication also said Fraport has pledged a total €1.73bn worth in upgrades for the airports.

Fraport, which also runs Frankfurt Airport, is the first company to acquire a Greek government-owned company but a series of privatisations is expected to follow. Greece's prime minister Alexis Tsipras and the Greek parliament were forced to go ahead with privatisation initiatives in order to receive an €86bn bailout package from the European Stability Mechanism.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/greece-german- ... ve-1516015

[Paphitis]

... and consequently do not give money the same respect...

Which is all well and fine up until the point when 'you' start asking and expecting those who do have more 'respect for money' to give 'you' theirs on 'your' terms

Greece didn't ask for more money. Greece asked to be allowed fewer harsh austerity measures. They also asked to rationalise the insane levels of compound interest they are being saddled with for money they did not ask for but was given in their name to the bankers!

Smash the plates and tear up the banknotes and dance on them! Disdain for money.

Anyway - IMF agreeing that *imaginary* fantasy debt created by bankers should now be magically reduced.

Also, everyone is ignoring no-money Brits and chequeless Czechs ...

Oh yes they asked for money alright.

They just didn't want the harsh austerity to come with the bailouts.

If Greece was not bailed out, the Greek Banks would have completely collapsed by now, and who really knows what this means. All you can say is it would be completely bad, because the people would have access to the money they have in their pillow case only, probably resulting in major civil unrest and of course depression.

Oh and the people do not have disdain for money. They love it and crave it just as much as any other European does, if not a whole lot more. Probably a whole lot more than most. The biggest issue here is that Greece has absolutely no industry, no manufacturing base or tech industries. All it has is some agriculture, tourism and Merchant Marine which will now be obliterated due to the higher taxes that will be imposed hence all the Greek Shipping Magnates registering their assets under the Cyprus Flag (legal tax minimization but probably immoral).