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[miltiades]

It's more like my home these days YiaLoser, considering how invested I am in the country.

I decided a long time ago that I will die and be buried in Greece.

I spend a lot more time in Greece than I do in Cyprus let me give you the tip. I was in Cyprus for 10 days and did 3000 kliks. The place gives me the shits and it exhausts me. Don't like Cyprus like I use to.

It's ok but it's not for me.

Anyone tired of Cyprus is tired of life !!

What's so interesting about Cyprus that would not make one tired?
I am not saying Greece is any better, i am just curious why iyo cyprus is such a great place?

Firstly Cyprus is my birth country and its soil the home of my ancestors, besides this it has the most wonderful climate one could wish for, seasons that are clearly defined, breathtaking sunsets and sun rises, people that I like and interact with at ease, food that I enjoy, and it is also, for me, Paradise on earth.

I have been to Greece and the Greek islands many times, years ago, I just do not feel at home, I also do not interact easily with Greeks, not a language barrier I might add since my Greek is fluent and my accent can be adjusted to the Greek one at ease. For me mate Cyprus is way way above Greece in every way.

[Pyrpolizer]

No, either way negotiations will start from zero point.

Going back to the drachma will let those who were astute enough and took their money out before January to reimport it and rule in a buyers' market. It will be one more instance that the Greek system rewards the "aetonychides" who know how to exploit the system to their ends. I know some of them personally and very well!

I have lived here since well before the Euro and know the pros and cons of each currency. Except this time the drachma means going in with a 50 per cent, at least, penalty for the law abiding and patriotic assholes, like me, who did not send their money overseas, who pay their tax bills and mortgages on time.

I would rather be taxed more and maintain my mortgage payments where they are. Most people do.

Before this Syriza thing came in the economy was posting a surplus, projected GDP growth of 3 per cent and unemployment fell by two points. Now all projections are worse because half a year was wasted on grandstanding and dogmatic crap.

And most ministers have appointed relatives and cronies to high salary positions. Yesterday before parliament closed it made time to confirm the appointment of a party member's "partner", who now runs a restaurant, as head of the water company. Meritocracy in all its glory, syriza style.

today the mayors of Athens and Thessaloniki, the local government association, the Archbishop, the collective leadership of the univeristy professors, the hoteliers associations, the industrial chamber of commerce, the retailers chamber, the technical chamber, the bar association, have all called for a yes vote. They are all wrong and syriza, the chemtrail guys and the fascists are right?

Like they say here in Greece, ti pineis kai den mas dineis!

I still stand by the opinion that return to Drachma would mean better future for Greece if they could make the necessary reforms.
However I have to admit they are heavily spoiled and the only thing that can straighten them is a good whipping on the ass.
Unfortunately, the EU will be even more brutal on the Greek people, and I feel sorry for the portion of the Greeks who stand by their values and ethics.

Nikitas isn't it VERY STRANGE that we have not seen not even one poll so far? what's your opinion on this?

[Pyrpolizer]

Firstly Cyprus is my birth country and its soil the home of my ancestors, besides this it has the most wonderful climate one could wish for, seasons that are clearly defined, breathtaking sunsets and sun rises, people that I like and interact with at ease, food that I enjoy, and it is also, for me, Paradise on earth.

I have been to Greece and the Greek islands many times, years ago, I just do not feel at home, I also do not interact easily with Greeks, not a language barrier I might add since my Greek is fluent and my accent can be adjusted to the Greek one at ease. For me mate Cyprus is way way above Greece in every way.

All this is fine however Cyprus is not only sunsets, good climate, and good food. Try make a living here and we talk again how much of a Paradise it is
Besides Cyprus is only good for people of average abilities. Nearly zero chance for anyone with special talents. For those people Cyprus is a prison.

[miltiades]

Firstly Cyprus is my birth country and its soil the home of my ancestors, besides this it has the most wonderful climate one could wish for, seasons that are clearly defined, breathtaking sunsets and sun rises, people that I like and interact with at ease, food that I enjoy, and it is also, for me, Paradise on earth.

I have been to Greece and the Greek islands many times, years ago, I just do not feel at home, I also do not interact easily with Greeks, not a language barrier I might add since my Greek is fluent and my accent can be adjusted to the Greek one at ease. For me mate Cyprus is way way above Greece in every way.

All this is fine however Cyprus is not only sunsets, good climate, and good food. Try make a living here and we talk again how much of a Paradise it is
Besides Cyprus is only good for people of average abilities. Nearly zero chance for anyone with special talents. For those people Cyprus is a prison.

You will notice I said " for me ", of course I realize that if I was a young man striving to better my self financially in Cyprus then perhaps I would feel differently.
At the young age of 69 I dont face the same dilemas other younger people do.

[Paphitis]

First time in Greece's history since it was established as a state that the people experience capital controls. It was a rude shock. So do not be so sure of the NO vote.

Those of us who lived through the drachma era foreign exchange controls, including the humiliating body searches, understand why people would not want to relive them. Those were the times when only a tiny minority of the population had credit cards and inorder to order a book from overseas you applied for permission to export currency.

There were also controls on sideways attempts to export money in the form of goods. My brothers' inlaws who were refugess here in 1976, were stopped in Piraeus port and accused of by passing currency controls because they had four 1/2 kilo bags of dry beans. I told the customs guy to keep them and let the old folks move on and he had a go at me because surrendering the beans would cause him untold form filling.

We are now limited to 60 Euro per day ATM withdrawls, the banks are closed, so all banking procedures ie letters of credit, bills of lading certification etc are all stopped. All suppliers foreign and local expect cash up front before deliveries and the list goes on. The NO vote is beginning to take shape and the prospects of this situation lasting some months are not at all attractive.

It is easy to be a rebel from afar, it gets a harder when you face the choices head on.

And you think if you vote yes, the banks will open and everything will be back to normal?
Merkel already said it, forget whatever we agreed. We will re-negotiate.
Do you know what they will do to you Nikitas? They will step their boots on your throats. This time you will have to sign bail-in under conditions of blackmail. Cut of deposits.
Imo Tsipras planned his Grexit, and return to drahma a long time ago. He sure was honest and kept his promise:"i will not sign another mnimonio" he said.

I believe Tsipras has prepared for every contingency.

I have also heard from a close friend of mine who is no idiot, that the Drachma is being printed already in secret in a suburb around Portorafti, Athens. This friend of mine was a Minister of the previous administration and is very much anti Tsipras.

[Pyrpolizer]

You will notice I said " for me ", of course I realize that if I was a young man striving to better my self financially in Cyprus then perhaps I would feel differently.
At the young age of 69 I dont face the same dilemas other younger people do.

Therefore your initial statement that "Anyone tired of Cyprus is tired of life !" is invalid

[miltiades]

You will notice I said " for me ", of course I realize that if I was a young man striving to better my self financially in Cyprus then perhaps I would feel differently.
At the young age of 69 I dont face the same dilemas other younger people do.

Therefore your initial statement that "Anyone tired of Cyprus is tired of life !" is invalid

Absolutely not. The statement is very much valid. Anyone tired of Cyprus is tired of the daily struggle to survive, financially.
The statement is intended to be valid. I understand that a young unemployed professional is feeling rather dejected and tired, but this does not in anyway reflect upon the island of Cyprus, circumstances, grave errors by the banks, the establishment and governments past and present are the ones responsible for gross mismanagement.

We had a thriving economy, what went wrong, and it was not the EU that caused it but greed and stupidity coupled with selfishness and more, much more greed.
Its happening right now in Greece, they, the Greeks, point the accusing finger at the EU, but they have only themselves to blame.

[Paphitis]

You will notice I said " for me ", of course I realize that if I was a young man striving to better my self financially in Cyprus then perhaps I would feel differently.
At the young age of 69 I dont face the same dilemas other younger people do.

Therefore your initial statement that "Anyone tired of Cyprus is tired of life !" is invalid

Absolutely not. The statement is very much valid. Anyone tired of Cyprus is tired of the daily struggle to survive, financially.
The statement is intended to be valid. I understand that a young unemployed professional is feeling rather dejected and tired, but this does not in anyway reflect upon the island of Cyprus, circumstances, grave errors by the banks, the establishment and governments past and present are the ones responsible for gross mismanagement.

We had a thriving economy, what went wrong, and it was not the EU that caused it but greed and stupidity coupled with selfishness and more, much more greed.
Its happening right now in Greece, they, the Greeks, point the accusing finger at the EU, but they have only themselves to blame.

Cyprus is not a particularly pretty place and yes, if you live there it would probably get on your nerves. I was only there for 10 days and was happy to board my plane for Athens.

I am also convinced that the drinking water is laced with some weird chemical or even Heroin because many people were in lala land.

Plus the island really ticked me off when I had to have some dealings in getting RoC birth certificates for my twins so they can get their ID cards. I believe in giving them choices in life so being EU citizens of the RoC seems logical but damn it, the Government there should stick to bottled water.

Don't want to look like a know all "foreigner" but I do know when things are dysfunctional.

My advice to you is to stick to the wine because if you drink the local water you might be off with the fairies!

[Nikitas]

"I believe Tsipras has prepared for every contingency."

That would require a brain of above average intelligence. Tsipras needed ten years to complete a course that average students complete in four years. Hardly evidence of a wide intellectual range. One of his professors recently commented on his "unremarkable" academic record.

Most Greeks finish high school speaking at least one foreign language, this guy only recently managed to learn passable English, his famous phrase being "we do not have the weather for coffee" Δεν έχουμε καιρό για καφέ.

We need a hero, but he aint it.

[Paphitis]

"I believe Tsipras has prepared for every contingency."

That would require a brain of above average intelligence. Tsipras needed ten years to complete a course that average students complete in four years. Hardly evidence of a wide intellectual range. One of his professors recently commented on his "unremarkable" academic record.

Most Greeks finish high school speaking at least one foreign language, this guy only recently managed to learn passable English, his famous phrase being "we do not have the weather for coffee" Δεν έχουμε καιρό για καφέ.

We need a hero, but he aint it.

I'm not into that kind of thing Nikita. Apparently Hitler was a High School drop out and I am still trying to explain George W Bush junior.

Tsipras is in a very difficult situation. Greece is at the crossroads and your sovereign debt is unsustainable. Be very careful because your great great grandchildren will be born with a noose around their necks. Do not cave in to those who have trashed you. I have had the misfortune of looking at all the foreign media reports which has been scathing. Maybe you have been shielded from it.

Tsipras needs a consensus to steer Greece out of the shit. And for the first time in a long time, I believe him when he said he will resign if there is a YES vote. He really does care. He has not sold Greece out.

Nikita, I am not a Communist or even Left and would not have voted for Tsipras but I believe he has integrity, dignity and has balls as big as a Cypriot Donkey!