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Postby kurupetos » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:32 am



Amazing! :shock: :D :D
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:53 am

its bull and you know it. iron was invented in terggy in 1700 bm.
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:50 pm

Lordo wrote:its bull and you know it. iron was invented in terggy in 1700 bm.

What's bm? :?
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:04 pm

before muhammed of course. where were educated. gavole.
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:49 pm

kurupetos wrote:

Amazing! :shock: :D :D


...nice!
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:30 am

Lordo wrote:before muhammed of course. where were educated. gavole.

Who's muhammed? :?
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:30 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
kurupetos wrote:

Amazing! :shock: :D :D


...nice!

Indeed, RW.
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:10 pm

I am sceptical of claims that Cyprus invented iron or iron smelting. There are 49 iron items found in Greece , Crete, and Anatolia, likely dating from 1300 to 1200 bc but none in Cyprus, While further east Iron was being worked in Assyria possibly 1200 years before, in 2500 bc, while in India it was worked as far back as1800 bc. Cyprus therefore appears to be a late comer.
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:57 pm

Haven't got time to watch such a long video, but, no one "invented" iron (except God, perhaps) as it is an element.

But, the Greeks have the most evidence for the longest time working this element and, specifically on Cyprus, as second a region among all the archaeological finds. So, as Cyprus is part of Greece, there is good correlation that in the Greek world, where iron has been worked the longest, that Cyprus could be one of the Greek regions of the earliest and greatest productions. :D
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Re: When Cypriots invented iron...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:59 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Haven't got time to watch such a long video, but, no one "invented" iron (except God, perhaps) as it is an element.

But, the Greeks have the most evidence for the longest time working this element and, specifically on Cyprus, as second a region among all the archaeological finds. So, as Cyprus is part of Greece, there is good correlation that in the Greek world, where iron has been worked the longest, that Cyprus could be one of the Greek regions of the earliest and greatest productions. :D


But I have to disagree that Cyprus is a part of Greece, except as a result of conquest events, initially in the period about 1150 BC, but more significantly in the period say 330 to 300 BC, indeed up to say 1200 BC Cyprus was very much a part of the Non Greek Eastern Mediterranean Levantine/Egyptian world rather then then "Greek" Aegean based civilization, and indeed maintained many of those links through to 300 BC when the entire area was consumed by Macedonian Imperialism, probably as offensive to then then indigenous inhabitants as the latter Ottoman imperialism and when non Greek languages then spoken in Cyprus were suppressed by law. At least the Ottomans for all their faults did not do that.

Greece was however a late comer in working Iron. Lordo for all his faults is correct that there is older evidence of Iron working in Anatolia - One of the earliest smelted iron artifacts known was a dagger with an iron blade found in a Hattic tomb in Anatolia, dating from 2500 BC, while metallurgical analysis of iron fragments found at Kaman-Kalehöyük in 1994 and dating to c. 1800 BC revealed that some of these fragments were composed of carbon steel, which is the world's earliest known evidence for steel manufacture.
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