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[Nikitas]

the problem is in my head, perhaps, but it is still there and acts on my behavior, the same the security issue is in TCs heads but they act on their perceived fears.

Despite what you think, the RoC is what we perceive to be between us and becoming another district of Greece. You do not get this, then you do not understand who you are dealing with. Your irrational view that all GCs want to unite with Greece is so way off that it does not let you see the obvious. Tassos Papadopoulos understood Cypriots when he said "I received a state, I will not hand over a community". His message was directed towards Greece not anyone else. And it is no accident that the worst criticism came from Greek politicians, mostly from the "progressive" left.

As for compensation for properties. There is the market oriented way. An ad hoc stock exchange type of deal where properties will find their market level with no artficial props. Those that want to exchange, sell or rent, can do it that way. "Rent" as opposed to outright title transfer puts the situation on a different basis. The exchange can be electronic and totally anonymous, but restricted to natural persons of Cypriot nationality. Something like Ebay in operation. Overall the south will be the preferred ownership area. regardless of the residence restrictions imposed by BBF. It is ironic that this multidecade conflict has had one tangible result, turned Limassol into the most desirable part of Cyprus.

[Lordo]

well when you read the document and see that un now sees anastasiades as gc leader which should have been all along perhaps you will realise that
the end is now near.
one way or another.

where the furque did i say ever that i believed that all gcs want enosis with greace.

i would go along with letting properties find their value. no matter what you try the average house price in birmingham is still a quarter of a house in london. whether rent or buy it makes no difference. al the years of taking what belonged to the tcs will be corrected at the peace agreement, even if the prices are only double. there is no way it is going to balance that much.

it makes the deal fair for both sides for a change.

[Nikitas]

Fair will be judged by how it works in practice. My test is simpler, can it prevent a repeat of 1963 or 1974 by limiting motherland meddling.

I am seriously proposing putting all three guarantor power embassies in one building, with two staff for each one and severely limited ability to move around the island.

[Pyrpolizer]

when it comes to gc leader it is about time they got that right. and as you can see they now have. that old lie that you were the roc no longer holds. you killed the roc in 1963 and you stole its body but you are not befitting for its soul. you are a peasant and a peasant you shall remain.

as to gender let me educate you my little peasant.

Most people see the word gender on job applications and similar documents where you're asked to check one, male or female. Technically speaking, the word gender is being misused here. A person's sex is one or the other, male or female (and this is the word that really should be used on applications). A person's gender, however, has to do with more of his or her own self-identity or roles and stereotypes that society considers normal or acceptable behaviour.

Think of it this way: male and female are sexes, but masculine and feminine are genders.

So consider the following examples:

A woman who shaves her head is still a woman, but she is violating her gender norm.
Some fathers whose wives earn enough money to allow him to stay at home with the kids experience a gender-identity crisis.
A person who is about to undergo sex reassignment surgery will be changing sexes, but his or her gender changed a long time before the actual surgery.
Gender is becoming a little more ambiguous as most societies place less rigid rules on acceptable gender behaviours.
Forty years ago, it was not common (or especially accepted) to see a male nurse or a teen-aged girl who wanted to play football.
Today, neither scenario is especially strange,.

In the 1970s and 80s, gender-bending celebrities like David Bowie and Boy George were considered shocking; but today, when Lady Gaga dresses as her male alter ego, it's just performance art.

Of course, some languages — like German, Russian, Spanish, and French — specify their nouns and pronouns by gender, which changes both a word's inflection and article usage. This is mostly a means of word classification and doesn't correlate to masculinity or femininity in the human sense (or if it did, the connection would be weak and historical, at best). For example, in Spanish, a fork that you eat with is tenedor (a masculine noun), but a fork in the road is a bifurcación (a feminine noun) — not much of a connection to the sexes, is there?
i hope this helps.

You wrote all this??? What happened did you get the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit

[Pyrpolizer]

the problems are in your imagination nikitas.

abolish roc - who cares. leave and change the constitution to accommodate bbf.
property - issue is solved. some will return to their houses under southern administration, few will return to the north and the rest will get compensation. so long as compensation includes loss of use and some form of fair exchange - where exactly is the problem. by all means let all those who wish top move north do so. see how many people drop everything and move to the old village. you talk about atatus o the roc as if it is yours. you forget it belongs to the tcs. you stole it in 63 you swines

governance - easy. each side governs itself and federal level is equal.

what the hell is so difficult about the solution.


oh yes the question is compensation. where is the money coming from. i grant you that. but considering terggy uk, usa, russia and the roc has caused the problem they should all contribute tothe purse. and i use the the word purse deliberatly so the big girls blouse charluis will understand what i am talking about and of course not forgetting xerodjeahalo and the rest of the greek fanatics on here.

I will vote OXI to any agreement that takes away my rights on my property. If it's not upto me to do whatever I wish to do with it, be it sell it, rent it, exchange it I will vote OXI 100 times.
I can only accept 2 things
A)compensation ONLY if the property is used for public purposes
B) Allow the current user use it for free for about a year. Then either pay rent or get out of it.

[Mustiejodu]

Lordo . These couple of bafoons have missed the ship. They are going on about why mustafa akinci is being mentioned as a leader. B25 or the other fascist you really need to lay your coat and just disappear because peace is coming and resolutions are coming, we don't give a fuck about titles. We don't care what you think about the dialogue between the 2 leaders. I don't give a hoot about your dismissive attitude about their positive meetings they have . Mustafa akinci has proven for the past 40 years that he has the ability to practically deal with issues. All you do is chat shit out if your mouth . It is you who is now doing all the talking and insulting everything about anything positive . You are a wet rag. Go and bury your head in the sand and by the time you pull it out you will walk around a united Cyprus . You will hate it but I will love it and so will all the majority if cypriots

[Mustiejodu]

That's ok then all the TCs that lived in larnaca will also have the same rights. Most of those houses opposite the sea were turkish houses so they can claim those back or the occupants can stay for a year or pay rent or get out. What will happen to the area where a damn was built by the GC s where there was a TC village ?

[Pyrpolizer]

That's ok then all the TCs that lived in larnaca will also have the same rights. Most of those houses opposite the sea were turkish houses so they can claim those back or the occupants can stay for a year or pay rent or get out. What will happen to the area where a damn was built by the GC s where there was a TC village ?

Wasn't I clear enough? What I said for the Gcs applies equally to the TCs.

The Tcs by the sea:get their properties back
Those who had a damn built:Get compensation.

I would only accept a property committee to act as intermediator in what I would want to do by myself. In no case I would accept an Annan Plan style committee that would take my property rights away and do as she pleases. No way!
Furthermore in no way would I accept an agreement that would take away my rights to go to ECHR concerning my properties.

[Lordo]

Lordo . These couple of bafoons have missed the ship. They are going on about why mustafa akinci is being mentioned as a leader. B25 or the other fascist you really need to lay your coat and just disappear because peace is coming and resolutions are coming, we don't give a fuck about titles. We don't care what you think about the dialogue between the 2 leaders. I don't give a hoot about your dismissive attitude about their positive meetings they have . Mustafa akinci has proven for the past 40 years that he has the ability to practically deal with issues. All you do is chat shit out if your mouth . It is you who is now doing all the talking and insulting everything about anything positive . You are a wet rag. Go and bury your head in the sand and by the time you pull it out you will walk around a united Cyprus . You will hate it but I will love it and so will all the majority if cypriots

they have not quite understood the text yet. they will soon and will start doing the fire dance round the fire with their mouth frothing like a rabied dog.

talat started the change and akinci will finish it. either they will come to an agreement or it will be division. period.

[Lordo]

when it comes to gc leader it is about time they got that right. and as you can see they now have. that old lie that you were the roc no longer holds. you killed the roc in 1963 and you stole its body but you are not befitting for its soul. you are a peasant and a peasant you shall remain.

as to gender let me educate you my little peasant.

Most people see the word gender on job applications and similar documents where you're asked to check one, male or female. Technically speaking, the word gender is being misused here. A person's sex is one or the other, male or female (and this is the word that really should be used on applications). A person's gender, however, has to do with more of his or her own self-identity or roles and stereotypes that society considers normal or acceptable behaviour.

Think of it this way: male and female are sexes, but masculine and feminine are genders.

So consider the following examples:

A woman who shaves her head is still a woman, but she is violating her gender norm.
Some fathers whose wives earn enough money to allow him to stay at home with the kids experience a gender-identity crisis.
A person who is about to undergo sex reassignment surgery will be changing sexes, but his or her gender changed a long time before the actual surgery.
Gender is becoming a little more ambiguous as most societies place less rigid rules on acceptable gender behaviours.
Forty years ago, it was not common (or especially accepted) to see a male nurse or a teen-aged girl who wanted to play football.
Today, neither scenario is especially strange,.

In the 1970s and 80s, gender-bending celebrities like David Bowie and Boy George were considered shocking; but today, when Lady Gaga dresses as her male alter ego, it's just performance art.

Of course, some languages — like German, Russian, Spanish, and French — specify their nouns and pronouns by gender, which changes both a word's inflection and article usage. This is mostly a means of word classification and doesn't correlate to masculinity or femininity in the human sense (or if it did, the connection would be weak and historical, at best). For example, in Spanish, a fork that you eat with is tenedor (a masculine noun), but a fork in the road is a bifurcación (a feminine noun) — not much of a connection to the sexes, is there?
i hope this helps.

You wrote all this??? What happened did you get the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit

if you really read the text you would not be asking the question.