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by **Nikitas** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:49 pm

Anyone heard of the new project by the name Hands-on-Famagusta?

From what I gather it is a transcommunal effort by architects to lay out a new plan for the Famagusta area, stretching from Derynia to Salamis and from the sea to Ayios Nikolaos and Engomi.

Though they say they are open to dialog so far on their site there is no provision for comments.

As we are getting closer to the Bizonal bit it makes you wonder how a project like this can work out.

by **B25** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:05 pm

Pure propaganda stuff.

All the Turkish bazaliki on Famagusta, makes you wonder if we are being herded by foreign powers to accept another fucked deal.

Personally, and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I say Fuck the Famagustians, we will not accept it back as a bargaining chip to forsake the rest of the country. I have property in Varosi and I have property to lose as well, but I won't agree to any of this horse trading so that The Turks can get one up on us.

by **halil** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:10 pm

Nikitas wrote:Anyone heard of the new project by the name Hands-on-Famagusta?

From what I gather it is a transcommunal effort by architects to lay out a new plan for the Famagusta area, stretching from Derynia to Salamis and from the sea to Ayios Nikolaos and Engomi.

Though they say they are open to dialog so far on their site there is no provision for comments.

As we are getting closer to the Bizonal bit it makes you wonder how a project like this can work out.

http://mahallae.org/challenge-idea/hands-famagusta

by **halil** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:19 pm

halil wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Anyone heard of the new project by the name Hands-on-Famagusta?

From what I gather it is a transcommunal effort by architects to lay out a new plan for the Famagusta area, stretching from Derynia to Salamis and from the sea to Ayios Nikolaos and Engomi.

Though they say they are open to dialog so far on their site there is no provision for comments.

As we are getting closer to the Bizonal bit it makes you wonder how a project like this can work out.

http://mahallae.org/challenge-idea/hands-famagusta

https://www.facebook.com/handsonfamagusta

by **Nikitas** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:26 pm

Halil,

I have see the relevant sites and facebook page.

What I do not get is how this project ties in with the BBF deal. As far as I can tell there is no special plan for the Famagusta area, to create something like a "an open city" like Tangiers was pre 1940. A demarcation line will run through the proposed area and there will be separate municipalities north and south.

The people carrying out the project might be great architects, they lack verbal communication skills though. The average person does not understand abstract concepts like "eco layer" when talking about a city.

by **Lordo** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:05 pm

why cant it work like it works in london. the borough line is an artificial one, all the services are unifed for the whole of london. it will work the same way.

by **Nikitas** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:40 pm

It cannot work like in London because in our case the demarcation line is a necessary security provision for one of the communities, or have you forgotten how this BBF thing came about?

So the TC side will want to monitor and control who comes and goes from its areas, especially a port area like Famagusta which is regarded as a vital node. London does not have such worries.

There are also economic and environmental factors that the planners are not facing realistically. Take the two river estuaries which now disgorge into the bay north of Famagusta, During the flood season these are mosquito rich areas and presumably sprayed as intensel now as they were pre 1974 to prevent a return of malaria. These plans call for a nature reserve in this area. Would the TCs living nearby accept this risk?

In the south they call for the retreat of the hotel zone from the beach front so the seaward area will gain what they term "depth" with parks and cycleways etc. Considering that the hotels are the moneymakers, and that hefty compensation will have to be found to carry out compulsory purchases, the rate payers might have some comment to make about the plan.

Personally I would love to have a "linear" seaside park to walk and cycle in, but others might have different views.

by **Lordo** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:54 pm

sometimes you are just an ass. of course the northern federation will control what comes and goes in the port. people in heathrow are not saying to people city airport hang on a minute i want to have say in what you do.
as to nature reserve, surely we can have a nature reserve and control the mosies. you should be able to walk across the line anywhere any time you like. there will be no crossing points.