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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:28 am

...flag of Cyprus, let him stand with one, that will be hard to ignore, indeed i am hoping.
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Lordo » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:35 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:dreaming again gr


Its your community that needs to come back to reality. You will eventually hit the ground with a mighty thud en all.

we are as storong as we have ever been and getting stronger. your loss boy but you just dont know it.
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Nikitas » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:52 pm

Akinci is one man, the TC community as a whole needs to mature and there is no sign of that, in my opinion.

Maturity at the communal level comes after real trial of cohesion. What the 1974 events did for the GCs was to impose maturity fast and at all levels. The fact that the GC community managed to retain its cohesion, rebuild its economy, retain its political system intact was a big surprise for all, especially Turkey and Greece.

The financial disaster in 2013 further reinforces this maturity. The community pulled together faster than any other EU nation in similar circumstances, and will be out of it by November.

The TCs have not been tested, as a communit they seem to be content to relinquish vital parts of their communal life to Turkey. I wonder if Akinci is strong enough to carry along the whole community.

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Lately there have been several references to the demographic problem of Cyprus. All advanced nations show the same evidence of demographic change. Turkey too is showing a decreasing population as its economy develops, which lead Erdo to call on women to forget careers and have three kids.
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Lordo » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:28 pm

how wrong can be be nikitas. if it was not so tragic you would be very funny. you lot are stuck in 1570
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Nikitas » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:04 pm

Wrong how? The facts are there.

In 1974 with the loss of 80 per cent of GDP, 40 per cent of the population homeless and destitute the GC community managed to hold itself together, without a single incident of black marketeering or abuse of external aid and not one single loss of life due to the hardships. In one decade the GC economy grew to the level that it surpassed pre 1974 levels and ten years later commenced EU entry negotiations and passed every single test in record time.

And how is any of the above reflecting being stuck in 1570?

Where was the TC community when any of the above was happening? Where was even some symbolic expression of support to the 200 000 compatriots who were displaced due to no fault of their own?

And you know what, recalling pre 1570 times is natural for a community with a long history on this island, it is inevitable, when for instance we visit a church built in 700 AD and is still in use today. Neither you nor anyone else can change that process when factual reminders are everywhere around you. If that bothers you then it is up to you to erase the unpleasant reminders of 1571 and not by bringing in settlers.
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:53 pm

in the enclaves boiling in their juices as was he magarios wish. did you expect them to break out of the enclaves you kept them in for 11 years to come and help you. you have such short memory nikitas
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Sotos » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:00 pm

So how is Akinci any different as far as we are concerned? Take the Annan plan that we rejected for example. What EXACTLY is he going to offer which is going to make a new plan so much better for us that we can accept it? Can you be SPECIFIC?
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:54 pm

Sotos wrote:So how is Akinci any different as far as we are concerned? Take the Annan plan that we rejected for example. What EXACTLY is he going to offer which is going to make a new plan so much better for us that we can accept it? Can you be SPECIFIC?


Here we have it; Its all seeping out now.

Akinci said he was optimistic as both communities’ leaders are committed to a solution.

“This time we have two leaders who, ten years ago, supported the Annan plan. I continue to share this vision, and I hope Mr. Anastasiades will also share this vision in the coming months.”

For the issue of hydrocarbons and compensation, which is overwhelmingly net positive for the GC's. They will pay for it themselves.

“I regard this issue as an asset… we can create a situation where we can use them [hydrocarbons] as an asset to finance a solution,” commented Akinci.

The guy is no different than his predecessors, except that he thinks that a solution will be achieved in months, instead of years. He is a posturing showboating jackass -------> FAIL.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/06/04/akinc ... not-years/
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby Sotos » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:43 am

“This time we have two leaders who, ten years ago, supported the Annan plan. I continue to share this vision, and I hope Mr. Anastasiades will also share this vision in the coming months.”


So no change. What Akinci wants is what Turkey wanted for a decade. If Anastasiades dares to agree on anything resembling the Annan plan, not only we will reject it, but we should also hang him as a traitor.
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Re: Is Mustafa akinci our beacon of a real solution

Postby scorpion » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:00 am

Wow! You guys are great at crushing all the hope Akinci gives to us with your absurd hate and racism towards the TC community. Why do you always look down on us? This is what I want to understand. After all being called Greek or Turkish is not something we choose. For the nationalist out there: there is genetic evidence that shows Cypriots are not similar to their mainland counterparts. We are all just a mix composed of many different backgrounds. All human!
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