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[Lordo]

they have not just reinvented cypriotism, they taken on board the real thing.

[Maximus]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

[MR-from-NG]

Eliminated for good. Peace on the island at long last.

It’s interesting that you connected the two… your elimination being equivalent to peace on the island!


And here's the reason why ultimately you *must* be eliminated...

sooner or later we will get to 1 million and it is you who will ask for division and we will say no. watch and learn.

I would join forces with you to kick each and every undesirable mainlander off the island but even then I doubt very much you would tolerate the remaining 80 thousand or so TC's and that's what makes me sad.

[MR-from-NG]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

That is so stupid that I wouldn't even take your bet. Assuming what you say is a possible scenario wouldn't the TC's demand for Turkey's guarantee be crucial then?

[Pyrpolizer]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

That is so stupid that I wouldn't even take your bet. Assuming what you say is a possible scenario wouldn't the TC's demand for Turkey's guarantee be crucial then?

He,he,he and then they wonder why only 25% of TCs want the guarantees to get abolished.

[MR-from-NG]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

That is so stupid that I wouldn't even take your bet. Assuming what you say is a possible scenario wouldn't the TC's demand for Turkey's guarantee be crucial then?

He,he,he and then they wonder why only 25% of TCs want the guarantees to get abolished.

You see what I mean Pyrpolizer? One minute they say you are safe and do not need Turkeys protection the next minute they tell you TC's will be eliminated to restore peace in Cyprus. Please tell me if TC's wanting Turkeys guarantee is justified or not after reading such frightening threats.

[Jerry]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

That is so stupid that I wouldn't even take your bet. Assuming what you say is a possible scenario wouldn't the TC's demand for Turkey's guarantee be crucial then?

I think you may find that the TCs will be eliminated as a result of Turkey's guarantees. Remember their primary objective was to secure a presence on the island, it was not to "save" the Turkish Cypriots. We know that many of you are not happy with the huge influx of mainlanders and its associated Turkification. So here's a scenario; the Turkish Cypriots want to be their own masters (As Ankinci has already said) but Turkey won't loosen its grip and uses the settlers to foment unrest leading to violence and ultimately armed conflict. It's obvious who would come out on top, where would the vanquished TCs go. Turkey has used you for its own ends, your own security force is impotent, ask yourself why the Turkish Cypriot defence force is so small, ask yourself why the local police are under the direct control of the military?

Whatever the outcome of the current talks you will be swallowed up by Turkey or leave Cyprus for good. You may want to keep most of the conquered territory, I bet Turkey will settle for less in an attempt to keep the guarantees.

[Maximus]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

That is so stupid that I wouldn't even take your bet. Assuming what you say is a possible scenario wouldn't the TC's demand for Turkey's guarantee be crucial then?

He,he,he and then they wonder why only 25% of TCs want the guarantees to get abolished.

You see what I mean Pyrpolizer? One minute they say you are safe and do not need Turkeys protection the next minute they tell you TC's will be eliminated to restore peace in Cyprus. Please tell me if TC's wanting Turkeys guarantee is justified or not after reading such frightening threats.

You have misinterpreted what I mean. You will eliminate yourselves, all by yourselves.

In my opinion, no solution seems the most probable / a solution does not seem possible because your community is too renegade and so god damn unreasonable. Your politics almost guarantees conflict.

On the one hand, you say you want turkey to sod off. On the other hand, you want turkey to guarantee your apartheid and what you stole from other Cypriots. Your community can only play this renegade hand because of Turkey. If this is the case, I say good riddance as you hurtle towards extinction.

[umit07]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

That is so stupid that I wouldn't even take your bet. Assuming what you say is a possible scenario wouldn't the TC's demand for Turkey's guarantee be crucial then?

I think you may find that the TCs will be eliminated as a result of Turkey's guarantees. Remember their primary objective was to secure a presence on the island, it was not to "save" the Turkish Cypriots. We know that many of you are not happy with the huge influx of mainlanders and its associated Turkification. So here's a scenario; the Turkish Cypriots want to be their own masters (As Ankinci has already said) but Turkey won't loosen its grip and uses the settlers to foment unrest leading to violence and ultimately armed conflict. It's obvious who would come out on top, where would the vanquished TCs go. Turkey has used you for its own ends, your own security force is impotent, ask yourself why the Turkish Cypriot defence force is so small, ask yourself why the local police are under the direct control of the military?

Whatever the outcome of the current talks you will be swallowed up by Turkey or leave Cyprus for good. You may want to keep most of the conquered territory, I bet Turkey will settle for less in an attempt to keep the guarantees.

On the other side of the coin we have a "Republic" with the national anthem of a foreign country, whose top military commander is from Greece. Remind you of another "Republic" not so far away? The average TC sees guarantees as a deterrent to the GC's trying to unilaterally overturn any new settlement, I'm sorry to say this in such a crude manner but most TC's feel that the mere threat of force from Turkey would be enough to keep GC's inline with any agreed solution. Does this mean that TC's will support any Turkish aggression against a unified Cyprus? No. The GC side has yet to provide any reasonable remedy to alleviate such concerns.

[MR-from-NG]

I will take 50 to 1 that the TC's will be eliminated first, then the problem will be resolved.

It might take another 50 years but I think this is more likely than anything else.

That is so stupid that I wouldn't even take your bet. Assuming what you say is a possible scenario wouldn't the TC's demand for Turkey's guarantee be crucial then?

I think you may find that the TCs will be eliminated as a result of Turkey's guarantees. Remember their primary objective was to secure a presence on the island, it was not to "save" the Turkish Cypriots. We know that many of you are not happy with the huge influx of mainlanders and its associated Turkification. So here's a scenario; the Turkish Cypriots want to be their own masters (As Ankinci has already said) but Turkey won't loosen its grip and uses the settlers to foment unrest leading to violence and ultimately armed conflict. It's obvious who would come out on top, where would the vanquished TCs go. Turkey has used you for its own ends, your own security force is impotent, ask yourself why the Turkish Cypriot defence force is so small, ask yourself why the local police are under the direct control of the military?

Whatever the outcome of the current talks you will be swallowed up by Turkey or leave Cyprus for good. You may want to keep most of the conquered territory, I bet Turkey will settle for less in an attempt to keep the guarantees.

We have in a sense already been eliminated. The TC's have more or less lost their unique identity and are becoming like mainland Turks. The sooner there is a settlement the better for both sides. I believe there'll be 50K mainlander allowed to stay, I personally would like to see them all go, they have nothing to offer us and they have nothing in common with us. Vast majority of settlers are ignorant, dirty and dishonest, we don't need such people on our island.