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[Lordo]

thats a lot of bull and you know it. the problem is two fold. lets take the paedophile situation. you would think that the justice system would have realised by now that this crime is no ordinary crime by the long term damage it does to the victim and the inability of medicine to treat this condition, which means they will go on doing it till they die.
put that to one side the real culprit of injustice in the western world is the freemasons. they have infiltrated the whole system. if you are a freemason the case does not even go to court. it has taken them decades to uncover what these swine did to children. politicians judges and ministers were involved.

like i said you make up the myth and you believe it. i accept your mitigating circumstances. you are old and unable to think things through. but one must understand ones limitations. even that may be effected by your dimentia

now what about the guarantees and how they will be only figurative in years to come if there is peace. a bit like the government in uk. you can hardly say we do not have a democracy because our government has a queen as its figure head. talking of queens where the hell has charluis and xerodjehalo got to these days.

[Kikapu]

thats a lot of bull and you know it. the problem is two fold. lets take the paedophile situation. you would think that the justice system would have realised by now that this crime is no ordinary crime by the long term damage it does to the victim and the inability of medicine to treat this condition, which means they will go on doing it till they die.
put that to one side the real culprit of injustice in the western world is the freemasons. they have infiltrated the whole system. if you are a freemason the case does not even go to court. it has taken them decades to uncover what these swine did to children. politicians judges and ministers were involved.

like i said you make up the myth and you believe it. i accept your mitigating circumstances. you are old and unable to think things through. but one must understand ones limitations. even that may be effected by your dimentia

now what about the guarantees and how they will be only figurative in years to come if there is peace. a bit like the government in uk. you can hardly say we do not have a democracy because our government has a queen as its figure head. talking of queens where the hell has charluis and xerodjehalo got to these days.

Now you are starting to give me headaches again!

I already said this. What more do you want?

There is a difference between some western societies and courts not punishing criminals in a way that they should where the punishment fits the crime

As for the guarantees, they should ONLY be guarantees for True Democracy, Human Rights, EU Principles and International Laws afforded to ALL Cypriots to be treated as equal citizens. Turkey, Greece and the UK can take a hike. Let them guarantee whatever the hell they want to their own people in their own nations. Now, leave me alone to get over my headache. I got things to do today and I can only take so many Aspirins a day to clear my headaches that you cause with your posts.

[Get Real!]

Here is a fact that you can't dispute as I can prove it to you . The total percentage of the population of the greek Cypriot community that was displaced was 23% . The total displaced turkish Cypriots was also 23 % . There you go everyone so displaced persons as percentage of their respective population was equal. Let me make it very simple if 20 TC s out of a total of 100 TC s were displaced that would be 20% . If 40 GCS out of total 200 GCS were displaced the answer is 20 % again . And to think your ancestors created maths and you can't make a simple calculation. Only joking here so don't get wound up. If you want fact and figures just look up the population during 1974 of each community and look up the figures that were published by the cyprus government of GCS displaced agreed by un, the Cyprus government did not do one for the TCs but there was one done by un on 1st of November 1974 . I got the percentage by calculating the total displaced by the total population and both came out as 23% .

23% of 110,00 = 25.3k
23% of 650,000 = 149.5k

What a load of tosh!

Here are the real revised figures for the displaced:

GSc = 185,000 odd

TCs = 45,000 odd

And don't worry about percentages.

[Lordo]

Here is a fact that you can't dispute as I can prove it to you . The total percentage of the population of the greek Cypriot community that was displaced was 23% . The total displaced turkish Cypriots was also 23 % . There you go everyone so displaced persons as percentage of their respective population was equal. Let me make it very simple if 20 TC s out of a total of 100 TC s were displaced that would be 20% . If 40 GCS out of total 200 GCS were displaced the answer is 20 % again . And to think your ancestors created maths and you can't make a simple calculation. Only joking here so don't get wound up. If you want fact and figures just look up the population during 1974 of each community and look up the figures that were published by the cyprus government of GCS displaced agreed by un, the Cyprus government did not do one for the TCs but there was one done by un on 1st of November 1974 . I got the percentage by calculating the total displaced by the total population and both came out as 23% .

23% of 110,00 = 25.3k
23% of 650,000 = 149.5k

What a load of tosh!

Here are the real revised figures for the displaced:

GSc = 185,000 odd

TCs = 45,000 odd

And don't worry about percentages.

thats bull and you know it gr.

160,000 gc were displaced in 1974. i don't have any figures for gc displaced in 1963. i suspect very few.
60,000 tc were displaced in 1974 and 50,000 in 1963. the strange thing is of 50,000 in 1963, 25,000 simply disappeared off the radar. they left cyprus and there were no record of them going by either side. tcs did not record it because they vied them as traitors. gc did not record it because it was their ethnic cleansing that pushed the tcs out of cyprus.

enough is enough about the crap you people have been pushing out since 1963. the negotiations are finally at a good point. you miss this point and the point of no return has gone. wake up for cyprus ffs.

[Mustiejodu]

Here is a fact that you can't dispute as I can prove it to you . The total percentage of the population of the greek Cypriot community that was displaced was 23% . The total displaced turkish Cypriots was also 23 % . There you go everyone so displaced persons as percentage of their respective population was equal. Let me make it very simple if 20 TC s out of a total of 100 TC s were displaced that would be 20% . If 40 GCS out of total 200 GCS were displaced the answer is 20 % again . And to think your ancestors created maths and you can't make a simple calculation. Only joking here so don't get wound up. If you want fact and figures just look up the population during 1974 of each community and look up the figures that were published by the cyprus government of GCS displaced agreed by un, the Cyprus government did not do one for the TCs but there was one done by un on 1st of November 1974 . I got the percentage by calculating the total displaced by the total population and both came out as 23% .

23% of 110,00 = 25.3k
23% of 650,000 = 149.5k

What a load of tosh!

Here are the real revised figures for the displaced:

GSc = 185,000 odd

TCs = 45,000 odd

And don't worry about percentages.

Oh my lord I can't believe that you are totally ignoring this figurative fact. Ok let's take your figures you have just given here . You say 185,000 GCS and 45,000 TCs . Ok I agree to this number as its a number and not a opinion. I won't even ask how this figure is supported . Basically I won't ask who done the count. Can you also then give me the figures for total population of GCS and total population of TCs . Once you do this then get a mathematician to calculate what the percentage of the TCs displaced of their total population . Then do the same with GCS then come back to me . In fact with your figures the percentage of TCs will now be bigger . Ok now I will put it into another way for you to understand what numbers represent. Let's say you have a husband and wife with 4 children which makes a total of 6 . Now they had a car accident and 3 of the children died but the parents including one child survived. This means 50% of their family have died. Now let's say you have a husband and wife and 2 kids and in this accident 1 child and 1 parent died totalling 2 out of 4 dies which means again 50% of that family vanished. Now which family has lost more in the total number that they had in their family in the first place . The size of the familes were different where one was smaller than the other but they equally lost 50% of their family. What part of this factual calculation can you not accept considering greeks created mathematics you seem to not crash this factual way of representing the percentage of losses. This actually gives you the real picture of the loss . You are distorting the representation of the figures by only giving the numbers displaced but not giving the total population of each ethnic group . Very dodgy Mr . Or shall I say propoganda

[Mustiejodu]

Here is a fact that you can't dispute as I can prove it to you . The total percentage of the population of the greek Cypriot community that was displaced was 23% . The total displaced turkish Cypriots was also 23 % . There you go everyone so displaced persons as percentage of their respective population was equal. Let me make it very simple if 20 TC s out of a total of 100 TC s were displaced that would be 20% . If 40 GCS out of total 200 GCS were displaced the answer is 20 % again . And to think your ancestors created maths and you can't make a simple calculation. Only joking here so don't get wound up. If you want fact and figures just look up the population during 1974 of each community and look up the figures that were published by the cyprus government of GCS displaced agreed by un, the Cyprus government did not do one for the TCs but there was one done by un on 1st of November 1974 . I got the percentage by calculating the total displaced by the total population and both came out as 23% .

23% of 110,00 = 25.3k
23% of 650,000 = 149.5k

What a load of tosh!

Here are the real revised figures for the displaced:

GSc = 185,000 odd

TCs = 45,000 odd

And don't worry about percentages.

Oh my lord I can't believe that you are totally ignoring this figurative fact. Ok let's take your figures you have just given here . You say 185,000 GCS and 45,000 TCs . Ok I agree to this number as its a number and not a opinion. I won't even ask how this figure is supported . Basically I won't ask who done the count. Can you also then give me the figures for total population of GCS and total population of TCs . Once you do this then get a mathematician to calculate what the percentage of the TCs displaced of their total population . Then do the same with GCS then come back to me . In fact with your figures the percentage of TCs will now be bigger . Ok now I will put it into another way for you to understand what numbers represent. Let's say you have a husband and wife with 4 children which makes a total of 6 . Now they had a car accident and 3 of the children died but the parents including one child survived. This means 50% of their family have died. Now let's say you have a husband and wife and 2 kids and in this accident 1 child and 1 parent died totalling 2 out of 4 dies which means again 50% of that family vanished. Now which family has lost more in the total number that they had in their family in the first place . The size of the familes were different where one was smaller than the other but they equally lost 50% of their family. What part of this factual calculation can you not accept considering greeks created mathematics you seem to not crash this factual way of representing the percentage of losses. This actually gives you the real picture of the loss . You are distorting the representation of the figures by only giving the numbers displaced but not giving the total population of each ethnic group . Very dodgy Mr . Or shall I say propoganda

[Mustiejodu]

Sorry you did say the total population and I must say I am concerned on how you can distort a solid number by making such statements that I am talking tosh. Let's just stick to maths and maths does not have opinions but just facts. Ok what is 45,000 of 110,000 as a percentage ? What is 185,000 of 650,000 as a percentage ? Please some one who know maths tell me which one is a higher percentage hence which one is a higher ratio ?

[Maximus]

Obviously musti, the percentages speak for themselves but if this wasn't such a ridiculous way of looking at things it would be hilarious. It takes stupidity to a whole new level.

So what you saying Musti, killing 1.5 million Armenians from a total population of 3 million is the same as killing half a family of 6?

[Mustiejodu]

Obviously musti, the percentages speak for themselves but if this wasn't such a ridiculous way of looking at things it would be hilarious. It takes stupidity to a whole new level.

So what you saying Musti,

Displacing / killing 1.5 million Armenians from a total population of 3 million is the same as killing half a family of 6?

Now look who is being stupid . Why are you comparing it of 2 extremes that are not in a comparitive grouping . I am comparing this to a group of ethnic people who lived in Cyprus to which both were displaced. 45000 TCs out of a total of 110000 TCs and 185000 GCS out of a total of 650000 GCS equals to 40% of the TCs population was displaced to 28 % of the GC population . That was nearly half of the TCs that were displaced . If you killed 185000 TCs they would be extinct you fucking idiot . Who is the idiot now .

[Pyrpolizer]

Here is a fact that you can't dispute as I can prove it to you . The total percentage of the population of the greek Cypriot community that was displaced was 23% . The total displaced turkish Cypriots was also 23 % . There you go everyone so displaced persons as percentage of their respective population was equal. Let me make it very simple if 20 TC s out of a total of 100 TC s were displaced that would be 20% . If 40 GCS out of total 200 GCS were displaced the answer is 20 % again . And to think your ancestors created maths and you can't make a simple calculation. Only joking here so don't get wound up. If you want fact and figures just look up the population during 1974 of each community and look up the figures that were published by the cyprus government of GCS displaced agreed by un, the Cyprus government did not do one for the TCs but there was one done by un on 1st of November 1974 . I got the percentage by calculating the total displaced by the total population and both came out as 23% .

Nonsense!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypriot_refugees

Yeah right, how about displacing 40% of the USA and replacing them with 40% GCs?