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[B25]

"fully militarize all the Aegean islands!"

They already are. They have been since 1974 and the reason given is that no treaty can displace the right of self defence.

and can they defend themselves if terggy decided to take them.

b


Try it and see, put your money where your mouth is, if you have the balls.

[GreekIslandGirl]

"fully militarize all the Aegean islands!"

They already are. They have been since 1974 and the reason given is that no treaty can displace the right of self defence.

Great! So why is there discussion to force Cyprus to de-militarize?

[Lordo]

"fully militarize all the Aegean islands!"

They already are. They have been since 1974 and the reason given is that no treaty can displace the right of self defence.

and can they defend themselves if terggy decided to take them.

b


Try it and see, put your money where your mouth is, if you have the balls.

thats big talk coming from a man with no balls.

[Nikitas]

There is enough firepower accumulated to turn the coast of Asia Minor to waste if push ever came to shove. Both nations have long range missiles, air borne cruise missiles, missile boats and lots more.

The idea that islands can be "taken" in the same manner that northers Cyprus was is military nonsense. The price for both sides will be horrifying. The question is who has the most costly repairs after the initial clash. On the Greek side it is some hotels and provincial grade roads on the islands, on the other is the major industrial area of Ismir, rail junctions, international airports and what pilots call a "target rich environment". It would take a major act of stupidity to start anything with such high stakes.

[Nikitas]

GIG,

In public international law no agreement can deprive a nation of its right of self defence. If for instance Cyprus is demilitarised and it is attacked by an aggressor who is not party to the agreement, it has a right to defend itself. There is also the obligation of the state to provide security for its citizens, and security is an absolute duty, it cannot be calculated by degrees nor can it be modulated by treaty obligations to other nations.

In Greece the defence of the islands was first in response to the Cyprus invasion, when it would have been negligent not to prepare defences, and then in response to the creation of the "Aegean Army" by Turkey and the acquisition of some hundreds of landing craft. Considering that in some island areas, like in Samos for instance, the distance from the Asia Minor shore is less than 1000 meters, it would be idiotic not to take defensive measures.

In any case, the demilitarising agreements refer only to some islands, not all the islands. And from the eastern Kyklades all the rest are in missile range, which kind of makes the old treaties more symbolic than practical today.

[Lordo]

division it is then.

[Paphitis]

"fully militarize all the Aegean islands!"

They already are. They have been since 1974 and the reason given is that no treaty can displace the right of self defence.

and can they defend themselves if terggy decided to take them.

YES!

[Paphitis]

"fully militarize all the Aegean islands!"

They already are. They have been since 1974 and the reason given is that no treaty can displace the right of self defence.

and can they defend themselves if terggy decided to take them.

b


Try it and see, put your money where your mouth is, if you have the balls.

They have never had the balls to fight Greece.

They only start wars they know they will win. A war with Greece is too much of a gamble for them because Greece is no pushover. Take a look at their military. They can hold their own.

[Paphitis]

There is enough firepower accumulated to turn the coast of Asia Minor to waste if push ever came to shove. Both nations have long range missiles, air borne cruise missiles, missile boats and lots more.

The idea that islands can be "taken" in the same manner that northers Cyprus was is military nonsense. The price for both sides will be horrifying. The question is who has the most costly repairs after the initial clash. On the Greek side it is some hotels and provincial grade roads on the islands, on the other is the major industrial area of Ismir, rail junctions, international airports and what pilots call a "target rich environment". It would take a major act of stupidity to start anything with such high stakes.

The Hellenic Navy is particularly very strong. The Air Force as well.

Greece is armed to the teeth. Turkey has land superiority which it can take advantage in Thrace only.

[Lordo]

"fully militarize all the Aegean islands!"

They already are. They have been since 1974 and the reason given is that no treaty can displace the right of self defence.

and can they defend themselves if terggy decided to take them.

b


Try it and see, put your money where your mouth is, if you have the balls.

They have never had the balls to fight Greece.

They only start wars they know they will win. A war with Greece is too much of a gamble for them because Greece is no pushover. Take a look at their military. They can hold their own.

in 74 they mobilised and moved troops to trakya, and then what happened. why did they not do us a favour and sort out terggy then. what is the difference between then and now.