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[Get Real!]

A strong, well equipped, and as large as possible NG is our only and best guarantee. Everything else is bullshit.

When Turkey knows that there are 100,000+ well equipped men in uniform with modern air and naval defenses, she’ll think twice before trying anything clever again.

If Turkey tries anything stupid she’ll know that there’ll be a price to pay and the risk of global humiliation as her jets get shot out the sky in droves.

Long live the CNG and may it grow and strengthen in every way!

[Jerry]

At least he recognises the real problem the Turkish Cypriots face, trouble is he does not understand that his "confederation" is not acceptable to the Greek Cypriots. He wants to keep his cake and eat it. He completely ignores what a solution could mean for the Cypriot majority, it's all about what's in it for his community never mind the rest. No mention of how much territory should be returned either.

[Get Real!]

At least he recognises the real problem the Turkish Cypriots face, trouble is he does not understand that his "confederation" is not acceptable to the Greek Cypriots. He wants to keep his cake and eat it. He completely ignores what a solution could mean for the Cypriot majority, it's all about what's in it for his community never mind the rest. No mention of how much territory should be returned either.

Returned? Oh… he was hoping for a little more actually!

[Mustiejodu]

I don't agree with your comments. All I am saying is isis is a real threat and we are caught in a very unstable geographical position. We don't need the turkish army to protect us from GCS that's a fact I will not dispute that because if I did then I am indirectly saying that all GCS want to kill TCs . There might be a few but not worth mentioning and feeling like killing some one to actually acting it out are two different things. Do you think we are safe with what is going on around us?

This is actually a very pleasing post. I am surprised.

The GCs are no threat as a whole. And I don't believe the TCs are a threat either even though there are some Grey Wolves.

To answer your question, Cypriots at large are not safe from potential attack by ISIL. They have the capability to attack America, Australia and any European Nation on its own soil, so Cyprus is a possible sitting duck. So there is no such thing as immunity from terrorist attack.

Even more disturbing is the propaganda which has already published a number of maps which include Cyprus as part of their Caliphate.

That idiot also posted this thread on the same day: cyprus43671.html He tells us that GCs are not a threat and then on the same day he writes that guarantees by Turkey are necessary

Sotos you have failed to answer my previous questions yet you are attempting to belittle my comments which at times are not my own opinion but based on the information at hand. Looking at this overall I believe a solution is possible with everything on the table but to support this I think it will go through with gurantees. My own opinion is get the turkish, greek and English army out but as I said before there is a real isis threat in the distant future that I TRUELY believe so would it be wise to do this now as part of the solution ? As I said before there is no threat from either TCs or GCS to each other and I stand by this. I will clarify this so sotos does not mix it up and accuse me that I say one thing and do some thing else. It is my belief that we don't need any gurantees and there is no threat to each community however I believe that the parties involved in solving this solution will not proceed unless part of the deal continues with gurantees or a revised version but I do believe everything else would be possible to agree to a solution and to actually sanction it . Does that make it any more clear to you sotos . Sotos you still have not answered my previous question.

[Mustiejodu]

A strong, well equipped, and as large as possible NG is our only and best guarantee. Everything else is bullshit.

When Turkey knows that there are 100,000+ well equipped men in uniform with modern air and naval defenses, she’ll think twice before trying anything clever again.

If Turkey tries anything stupid she’ll know that there’ll be a price to pay and the risk of global humiliation as her jets get shot out the sky in droves.

Long live the CNG and may it grow and strengthen in every way!

I think the gurantees is what the TCs would desire as part of the solution however pragmatic approach there is to solve the problem. I don't think anyone needs gurantees in my own opinion but I think it's a deal maker. I think cyprus as a whole would benefit of their own defence against a real threat like isis not Turkey. Can you tell me then what will this future CNG consist of . Will it have TC s and GCS in this 100,000 strong army ? How would you have this established as part of the solution ?

[Lordo]

all those weapons you have just purchased will have to be sold off now. cyprus is about to be disarmed.
renga news reporting.

there will be guarantees
600 gc soldiers
600 tc soldiers
600 british soldiers
1200 eu soldiers from different countries.
they will all be under a unifed command and the commander will not be from any gc tc or british forces.

and thats how the new guarantee will work.
renga news sto

[Get Real!]

Can you tell me then what will this future CNG consist of . Will it have TC s and GCS in this 100,000 strong army ? How would you have this established as part of the solution ?

I for one don’t have a problem with TCs joining the NG… in fact that was one of the problems from the onset not including all groups in the NG and thus fuelling segregation. If the TCs can contribute a further 10-20k men to the CNG then that’s brilliant!

Those who love Cyprus should be prepared to die for Cyprus and I don’t give a shit what their background is as long as they’re able-bodied.

A sizable and modern deterrent is what every country needs in this day and age of global American crimes. You can trust nobody these days but your weapons!

[Get Real!]

all those weapons you have just purchased will have to be sold off now. cyprus is about to be disarmed.
renga news reporting.

there will be guarantees
600 gc soldiers
600 tc soldiers
600 british soldiers
1200 eu soldiers from different countries.
they will all be under a unifed command and the commander will not be from any gc tc or british forces.

and thats how the new guarantee will work.
renga news sto

Only if we allow the dissolution of Cyprus via the disguised “BBF”… but I’m pretty confident it’ll never happen.

[Lordo]

not long now left.

[Paphitis]

I disagree. ISIL is far more dangerous than Turkey because they can't be controlled at all. At least international public opinion and pressure sways Turkey somewhat while such moderating influences don't seem to bother ISIL.

okkk So lets see what the Turks have done to Cyprus in the past and now:

- Invaded in 1571 killing 10s of thousands
- Occupied Cyprus for 3 centuries oppressing the native Cypriots and bringing to Cyprus 10s of thousands of Muslims
- Invaded again in 1974 killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 200.000 people
- They occupy 1/3rd of Cyprus with 40.000 troops
- They keep bringing more and more Turkish Settlers on our lands
- They send their battleships to cause problems to our EEZ
- They block us from entering various international organizations
- etc etc

So now tell me what ISIS has done to Cyprus ISIS is bad, but for Cyprus Turkey is WAY WAY worst and the facts show this clearly.

What they did hundreds of years ago is irrelevant to today's realities.

What I am saying to you is that Turkey's behavior is subject to international moderation. This is not so with ISIL.

Most of the points in that list is what is Turkey doing against us NOW International moderation or not, what matters is the end result. Turkey is a huge problem for Cyprus. ISIS is a much smaller problem to Cyprus, and it would be an even smaller one if they didn't have the support of Turkey.

Yes a huge problem. But so is ISIL.