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[Sotos]

I don't agree with your comments. All I am saying is isis is a real threat and we are caught in a very unstable geographical position. We don't need the turkish army to protect us from GCS that's a fact I will not dispute that because if I did then I am indirectly saying that all GCS want to kill TCs . There might be a few but not worth mentioning and feeling like killing some one to actually acting it out are two different things. Do you think we are safe with what is going on around us?

This is actually a very pleasing post. I am surprised.

The GCs are no threat as a whole. And I don't believe the TCs are a threat either even though there are some Grey Wolves.

To answer your question, Cypriots at large are not safe from potential attack by ISIL. They have the capability to attack America, Australia and any European Nation on its own soil, so Cyprus is a possible sitting duck. So there is no such thing as immunity from terrorist attack.

Even more disturbing is the propaganda which has already published a number of maps which include Cyprus as part of their Caliphate.

That idiot also posted this thread on the same day: cyprus43671.html He tells us that GCs are not a threat and then on the same day he writes that guarantees by Turkey are necessary

[Paphitis]

Isis is no threat to us. The threat are the Turks. It is the Turks that want our land, not Isis... and even if Isis wanted our land they couldn't get it since they have no navy and no airforce. So I will ask you again what SPECIFICALLY is Akinci going to offer to us that is so much better than what was offered so far? That is the ONLY thing that matters to us... we don't care at all about his publicity stands.

Actually, they are a threat to you.

You are not immune to International Terrorism considering the fact that there are numerous suitable targets on the island.

Further to this, if they win, they will develop a Navy and Air Force and they have already been making maps which include Cyprus as part of their Caliphate. Simply put, they have eyes on Cyprus.

And who is going to sell to them fighter jets and battleships? At most they will capture some old ones. Terrorist attacks maybe, but terrorist attacks can not result in 200.000 refugees and taking 1/3rd of Cyprus. Turkey is the real enemy of Cyprus, not ISIS.

That is very ignorant.

I agree that Turkey is an enemy of Cyprus but ISIL is the enemy to humanity as a whole.

And yes, terrorism is the same if not worse. It kills innocent people.

They are equally bad, and Cyprus is at risk. You are in close proximity. You have foreign interests on the island which could be targeted from British bases to foreign embassies. Or they can target you for being a Kafir.

It is completely random and there is no way you can defend or protect yourself.

A number of countries can supply them. Gulf States, Turkey. Then they capture weapons as well. For instance, they have actually captured Syrian Mig aircraft. They also have former Syrian pilots who are training them how to fly. We have already seen them fly these aircraft and even have photo intelligence of this occurring.

We also know they have a number of scientists which are developing chemical and biological weapons. They have even used Chlorine Gas in a number of attacks. Left unchecked, and without our constant bombing, they are advancing their training, getting better weapons from private arms dealers, and could have chemical and biological weapons on a more substantive level.

Oh and one more thing. Cyprus is not in control of its borders. Anyone can get to Cyprus from Syria to the occupied north and then into the free areas. You are at risk as a matter of fact and Cyprus is perfect for ISIL as a way of planting cells on the island which could attack a number of interests or fly from Larnaca to anywhere in the world.

You are high risk!

[Sotos]

I am no friend of ISIS, but while for most other countries terrorist attacks is the worst they can fear in Cyprus we have a much bigger problem called Turkey. That Turkey can supply ISIS weapons or that they can enter Cyprus from the occupied are just additional reasons why Turkey is the biggest problem for Cyprus.

[Paphitis]

I am no friend of ISIS, but while for most other countries terrorist attacks is the worst they can fear in Cyprus we have a much bigger problem called Turkey. That Turkey can supply ISIS weapons or that they can enter Cyprus from the occupied are just additional reasons why Turkey is the biggest problem for Cyprus.

So you agree now that ISIL can attack in Cyprus.

The presence of Turkey increases your risk. That is true.

But even if Turkey was not present, you are at risk. If ISIL can infiltrate the USA with all its security and surveillance apparatus, they can surely infiltrate Cyprus. From there they can do anything.

[Sotos]

I am no friend of ISIS, but while for most other countries terrorist attacks is the worst they can fear in Cyprus we have a much bigger problem called Turkey. That Turkey can supply ISIS weapons or that they can enter Cyprus from the occupied are just additional reasons why Turkey is the biggest problem for Cyprus.

So you agree now that ISIL can attack in Cyprus.

The presence of Turkey increases your risk. That is true.

But even if Turkey was not present, you are at risk. If ISIL can infiltrate the USA with all its security and surveillance apparatus, they can surely infiltrate Cyprus. From there they can do anything.

The Turks have been attacking Cyprus for centuries killing 10s of thousands and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands of Cypriots and they are currently occupying 1/3rd of our island with 40.000 troops. The Turkish army is also far more powerful than ISIS. Turkey is a FAR bigger problem to Cyprus than ISIS. You must be naive to argue to the contrary given the facts.

[Paphitis]

I am no friend of ISIS, but while for most other countries terrorist attacks is the worst they can fear in Cyprus we have a much bigger problem called Turkey. That Turkey can supply ISIS weapons or that they can enter Cyprus from the occupied are just additional reasons why Turkey is the biggest problem for Cyprus.

So you agree now that ISIL can attack in Cyprus.

The presence of Turkey increases your risk. That is true.

But even if Turkey was not present, you are at risk. If ISIL can infiltrate the USA with all its security and surveillance apparatus, they can surely infiltrate Cyprus. From there they can do anything.

The Turks have been attacking Cyprus for centuries killing 10s of thousands and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands of Cypriots and they are currently occupying 1/3rd of our island with 40.000 troops. The Turkish army is also far more powerful than ISIS. Turkey is a FAR bigger problem to Cyprus than ISIS. You must be naive to argue to the contrary given the facts.

I disagree. ISIL is far more dangerous than Turkey because they can't be controlled at all. At least international public opinion and pressure sways Turkey somewhat while such moderating influences don't seem to bother ISIL.

[Sotos]

I am no friend of ISIS, but while for most other countries terrorist attacks is the worst they can fear in Cyprus we have a much bigger problem called Turkey. That Turkey can supply ISIS weapons or that they can enter Cyprus from the occupied are just additional reasons why Turkey is the biggest problem for Cyprus.

So you agree now that ISIL can attack in Cyprus.

The presence of Turkey increases your risk. That is true.

But even if Turkey was not present, you are at risk. If ISIL can infiltrate the USA with all its security and surveillance apparatus, they can surely infiltrate Cyprus. From there they can do anything.

The Turks have been attacking Cyprus for centuries killing 10s of thousands and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands of Cypriots and they are currently occupying 1/3rd of our island with 40.000 troops. The Turkish army is also far more powerful than ISIS. Turkey is a FAR bigger problem to Cyprus than ISIS. You must be naive to argue to the contrary given the facts.

I disagree. ISIL is far more dangerous than Turkey because they can't be controlled at all. At least international public opinion and pressure sways Turkey somewhat while such moderating influences don't seem to bother ISIL.

okkk So lets see what the Turks have done to Cyprus in the past and now:

- Invaded in 1571 killing 10s of thousands
- Occupied Cyprus for 3 centuries oppressing the native Cypriots and bringing to Cyprus 10s of thousands of Muslims
- Invaded again in 1974 killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 200.000 people
- They occupy 1/3rd of Cyprus with 40.000 troops
- They keep bringing more and more Turkish Settlers on our lands
- They send their battleships to cause problems to our EEZ
- They block us from entering various international organizations
- etc etc

So now tell me what ISIS has done to Cyprus ISIS is bad, but for Cyprus Turkey is WAY WAY worst and the facts show this clearly.

[Paphitis]

I am no friend of ISIS, but while for most other countries terrorist attacks is the worst they can fear in Cyprus we have a much bigger problem called Turkey. That Turkey can supply ISIS weapons or that they can enter Cyprus from the occupied are just additional reasons why Turkey is the biggest problem for Cyprus.

So you agree now that ISIL can attack in Cyprus.

The presence of Turkey increases your risk. That is true.

But even if Turkey was not present, you are at risk. If ISIL can infiltrate the USA with all its security and surveillance apparatus, they can surely infiltrate Cyprus. From there they can do anything.

The Turks have been attacking Cyprus for centuries killing 10s of thousands and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands of Cypriots and they are currently occupying 1/3rd of our island with 40.000 troops. The Turkish army is also far more powerful than ISIS. Turkey is a FAR bigger problem to Cyprus than ISIS. You must be naive to argue to the contrary given the facts.

I disagree. ISIL is far more dangerous than Turkey because they can't be controlled at all. At least international public opinion and pressure sways Turkey somewhat while such moderating influences don't seem to bother ISIL.

okkk So lets see what the Turks have done to Cyprus in the past and now:

- Invaded in 1571 killing 10s of thousands
- Occupied Cyprus for 3 centuries oppressing the native Cypriots and bringing to Cyprus 10s of thousands of Muslims
- Invaded again in 1974 killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 200.000 people
- They occupy 1/3rd of Cyprus with 40.000 troops
- They keep bringing more and more Turkish Settlers on our lands
- They send their battleships to cause problems to our EEZ
- They block us from entering various international organizations
- etc etc

So now tell me what ISIS has done to Cyprus ISIS is bad, but for Cyprus Turkey is WAY WAY worst and the facts show this clearly.

What they did hundreds of years ago is irrelevant to today's realities.

What I am saying to you is that Turkey's behavior is subject to international moderation. This is not so with ISIL.

[Sotos]

I disagree. ISIL is far more dangerous than Turkey because they can't be controlled at all. At least international public opinion and pressure sways Turkey somewhat while such moderating influences don't seem to bother ISIL.

okkk So lets see what the Turks have done to Cyprus in the past and now:

- Invaded in 1571 killing 10s of thousands
- Occupied Cyprus for 3 centuries oppressing the native Cypriots and bringing to Cyprus 10s of thousands of Muslims
- Invaded again in 1974 killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 200.000 people
- They occupy 1/3rd of Cyprus with 40.000 troops
- They keep bringing more and more Turkish Settlers on our lands
- They send their battleships to cause problems to our EEZ
- They block us from entering various international organizations
- etc etc

So now tell me what ISIS has done to Cyprus ISIS is bad, but for Cyprus Turkey is WAY WAY worst and the facts show this clearly.

What they did hundreds of years ago is irrelevant to today's realities.

What I am saying to you is that Turkey's behavior is subject to international moderation. This is not so with ISIL.

Most of the points in that list is what is Turkey doing against us NOW International moderation or not, what matters is the end result. Turkey is a huge problem for Cyprus. ISIS is a much smaller problem to Cyprus, and it would be an even smaller one if they didn't have the support of Turkey.

[Nikitas]

I just love this conclusion from Hikmet writing from Istanbul:

"therefore I believe that both communities must agree to a two-state confederation before the dream of reunification becomes an eternal sleep."

the therefore refers to the host of problems affecting the TC community, and the way to solve them is for a two state solution. His community, according to him, is dissolving and he wants a two state solution as if that is going to make the settlers vanish overnight. What a tool.

After 40 years, even when they witness in person a festival titled "Cyprus the last conquest" they cannot see Turkey's intentions. Talk about beyond redemption!