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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:58 pm

I don't agree with your comments. All I am saying is isis is a real threat and we are caught in a very unstable geographical position. We don't need the turkish army to protect us from GCS that's a fact I will not dispute that because if I did then I am indirectly saying that all GCS want to kill TCs . There might be a few but not worth mentioning and feeling like killing some one to actually acting it out are two different things. Do you think we are safe with what is going on around us?
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Sotos » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:08 pm

Isis is no threat to us. The threat are the Turks. It is the Turks that want our land, not Isis... and even if Isis wanted our land they couldn't get it since they have no navy and no airforce. So I will ask you again what SPECIFICALLY is Akinci going to offer to us that is so much better than what was offered so far? That is the ONLY thing that matters to us... we don't care at all about his publicity stands.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:03 pm

Sotos wrote:Isis is no threat to us. The threat are the Turks. It is the Turks that want our land, not Isis... and even if Isis wanted our land they couldn't get it since they have no navy and no airforce. So I will ask you again what SPECIFICALLY is Akinci going to offer to us that is so much better than what was offered so far? That is the ONLY thing that matters to us... we don't care at all about his publicity stands.

lets turn it around. i need a good laugh. you tell us what is that he can offer you that you will accept sotos
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Nikitas » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:25 pm

An 82-18 territorial settlement, expressly recognising that the 82 is for ALL the other communities, thus accepting the multiethnic nature of the island. Expressly accepting that SBA territory burdens only the GC and others' area and when the SBAs go the territory will revert to southern control.

Accept the principle of one man one vote, the presidency open to all candidates from all communities and the vice presidency reserved for a TC with a weighted vote by all citizens.

Resolution of any veto by the supreme court made up entirely of Cypriots.

Things of that nature would convince most GCs.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Sotos » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:29 pm

Nikitas wrote:An 82-18 territorial settlement, expressly recognising that the 82 is for ALL the other communities, thus accepting the multiethnic nature of the island. Expressly accepting that SBA territory burdens only the GC and others' area and when the SBAs go the territory will revert to southern control.

Accept the principle of one man one vote, the presidency open to all candidates from all communities and the vice presidency reserved for a TC with a weighted vote by all citizens.

Resolution of any veto by the supreme court made up entirely of Cypriots.

Things of that nature would convince most GCs.



Good points. But Akinci is no different than any other Turkish muppet, so I don't expect anything substantially different from him.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:33 pm

Nikitas wrote:An 82-18 territorial settlement, expressly recognising that the 82 is for ALL the other communities, thus accepting the multiethnic nature of the island. Expressly accepting that SBA territory burdens only the GC and others' area and when the SBAs go the territory will revert to southern control.

Accept the principle of one man one vote, the presidency open to all candidates from all communities and the vice presidency reserved for a TC with a weighted vote by all citizens.

Resolution of any veto by the supreme court made up entirely of Cypriots.

Things of that nature would convince most GCs.


Yes I must agree this sounds to me appropriate and proportionately representing the ethnic diversity of the country. Proportionate representation is the fairest solution and also democratic. I can't argue and I won't because it's practical.
As mustafa akinci stated we must look upon each other as future partners not enemies. I think mustafa akinci should be the president and GC guy the vice. Only because akinci without a doubt is TRUELY for all cypriots and has no hidden agenda. The other guy has already shown his true colours but akinci is what you see is what you get no matter who ever moves the goal post. That's my opinion based on various historical factors.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:55 pm

Nikitas wrote:An 82-18 territorial settlement, expressly recognising that the 82 is for ALL the other communities, thus accepting the multiethnic nature of the island. Expressly accepting that SBA territory burdens only the GC and others' area and when the SBAs go the territory will revert to southern control.

Accept the principle of one man one vote, the presidency open to all candidates from all communities and the vice presidency reserved for a TC with a weighted vote by all citizens.

Resolution of any veto by the supreme court made up entirely of Cypriots.

Things of that nature would convince most GCs.

one man one what that is so funny. of course we will have that with two independent states. what more do you want.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:37 am

Mustiejodu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:An 82-18 territorial settlement, expressly recognising that the 82 is for ALL the other communities, thus accepting the multiethnic nature of the island. Expressly accepting that SBA territory burdens only the GC and others' area and when the SBAs go the territory will revert to southern control.

Accept the principle of one man one vote, the presidency open to all candidates from all communities and the vice presidency reserved for a TC with a weighted vote by all citizens.

Resolution of any veto by the supreme court made up entirely of Cypriots.

Things of that nature would convince most GCs.


Yes I must agree this sounds to me appropriate and proportionately representing the ethnic diversity of the country. Proportionate representation is the fairest solution and also democratic. I can't argue and I won't because it's practical.
As mustafa akinci stated we must look upon each other as future partners not enemies. I think mustafa akinci should be the president and GC guy the vice. Only because akinci without a doubt is TRUELY for all cypriots and has no hidden agenda. The other guy has already shown his true colours but akinci is what you see is what you get no matter who ever moves the goal post. That's my opinion based on various historical factors.


We're liking you more and more Musty, apart from the naughty things you said about BillC earlier, but we can only judge Mr Akinci on what he says and what he delivers and since the first couple of days he has been a disappointment, he hasn't said anything of any substance in important areas...

We want to hear what he says about Guarantees, we want to hear what he says about Occupation, we want to hear his views on Territory and Property and about Free Movement cos it's on these real things, in these massively important areas that he's being judged in the Free Areas, and so far, and as long as he remains silent, he is judged as not living up to expectations.

We must fear that he has been got at by the extremists on the other side of the cease-fire line, and there are a lot of evil people with ugly views up there, people like overweight partitionists like your Brother, Two Peoples Two Countries Weirdo, an example of someone who has grown fat on the misery of other CYs and who wants to hang on to his ill-gotten gains, despicably greedy and uncompromising excuse for a human being that he is.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:41 am

...honestly Lordo, do you get your answers from a book? vp was here long before you, we have heard these pages before.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:15 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...honestly Lordo, do you get your answers from a book? vp was here long before you, we have heard these pages before.

look rw let it be never said that i do not compromise. the boy wants one man one vote. i have given him possiblity of how he is going to have it.

now lets talk about akinci and his comments that he believes the solution is going to be agreed in months. one country two states equal federal power. now is that ok or not. do not listen to that ugly charlui he knows not what he says,
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