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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby Nikitas » Sat May 30, 2015 10:17 am

Another lament for the loss of our "eastern roots". Agia Sofia etc.

I look west, and see what El Greco accomplished and reckon it is way more significant. All outstanding accomplishments by Greeks happened in the west, not the east.

Sometimes I wonder if Alexander had turned left instead of right how much better things would be today. But he was stuck in conquering the "known" world, it never crossed his mind to risk going into the unknown.
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 30, 2015 10:52 am

There is a popular but inaccurate narrative that presents Alexander the Great as a rapacious conqueror. But the contextual facts of the time suggest there was a need to secure Greece from attacks and build a buffer of allies and not enemies around Greece so that invasions were less likely. Stability was the game. That was why Alexander turned East - that was were the enemy at the time (and now ?) was to be found. No major enemies in the West, then...

Indeed, Greeks had in fact turned West also and did much good as far as Britain, France and Italy were concerned - seeing much from early Greek explorations.

How much worse the enemies from the East would have been today without Alexander's early spread of learning?
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby Get Real! » Sat May 30, 2015 10:57 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:...there was a need to secure Greece from attacks

What Greece? There was no Greece and he was in Macedonia! :)
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 30, 2015 11:32 am

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:...there was a need to secure Greece from attacks

What Greece? There was no Greece and he was in Macedonia! :)


The City-States that comprised the Greek-speaking Nation - of which Macedonia was and is such a state - as was and is Cyprus. Thanks for that reminder to be more specific with the meaning of our English-given name. :D
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 30, 2015 11:54 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:562 years on May 29 1453 .. Polis the turk occupation begins...
DEN KSEXNO !!

:? That's not Cyprus' problem.... take it to the kalamaraes.


We must remember all foreign invasions dude for they may hold valuable lessons for us all.

Grenada, Kuwait, East Timor, you name it!

Even when the Turks invaded the Roman Empire of Byzantium!

Really amazes me that someone so into the classics as LesbosIslandGirl, will jump up and down with her knickers in a wad whilst calling the rest "half-educated" because they don't have a clue about the classics presumably, is so sensitive about this when the Byzantine Empire destroyed so many classical fine works, art and burned entire libraries down to the ground (much like what ISIL are doing today) and keep a straight face. :roll:
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 30, 2015 12:51 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:...there was a need to secure Greece from attacks

What Greece? There was no Greece and he was in Macedonia! :)


The City-States that comprised the Greek-speaking Nation - of which Macedonia was and is such a state - as was and is Cyprus. Thanks for that reminder to be more specific with the meaning of our English-given name. :D


The Greeks had to secure themselves from themselves. half the time they were invading each other and fighting among themselves. The main reason why the empire he created crumbled so quickly. It was more an implosion.

Some things never change really.
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby Lordo » Sat May 30, 2015 1:09 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:There is a popular but inaccurate narrative that presents Alexander the Great as a rapacious conqueror. But the contextual facts of the time suggest there was a need to secure Greece from attacks and build a buffer of allies and not enemies around Greece so that invasions were less likely. Stability was the game. That was why Alexander turned East - that was were the enemy at the time (and now ?) was to be found. No major enemies in the West, then...

Indeed, Greeks had in fact turned West also and did much good as far as Britain, France and Italy were concerned - seeing much from early Greek explorations.

How much worse the enemies from the East would have been today without Alexander's early spread of learning?

10,000 gazans and 80,000 indians killed. these numbers compared to todays population would be 3.5 million. rapacious my left foot genocidal.
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby miltiades » Sat May 30, 2015 1:53 pm

Lordo wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:There is a popular but inaccurate narrative that presents Alexander the Great as a rapacious conqueror. But the contextual facts of the time suggest there was a need to secure Greece from attacks and build a buffer of allies and not enemies around Greece so that invasions were less likely. Stability was the game. That was why Alexander turned East - that was were the enemy at the time (and now ?) was to be found. No major enemies in the West, then...

Indeed, Greeks had in fact turned West also and did much good as far as Britain, France and Italy were concerned - seeing much from early Greek explorations.

How much worse the enemies from the East would have been today without Alexander's early spread of learning?

10,000 gazans and 80,000 indians killed. these numbers compared to todays population would be 3.5 million. rapacious my left foot genocidal.

By the same idiotic reckoning the 6 million Jews of the 2nd WW would amount to 150 million, with ...inflation that is!!

Have you always been this stupid?
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby Lordo » Sat May 30, 2015 2:03 pm

miltiades wrote:
Lordo wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:There is a popular but inaccurate narrative that presents Alexander the Great as a rapacious conqueror. But the contextual facts of the time suggest there was a need to secure Greece from attacks and build a buffer of allies and not enemies around Greece so that invasions were less likely. Stability was the game. That was why Alexander turned East - that was were the enemy at the time (and now ?) was to be found. No major enemies in the West, then...

Indeed, Greeks had in fact turned West also and did much good as far as Britain, France and Italy were concerned - seeing much from early Greek explorations.

How much worse the enemies from the East would have been today without Alexander's early spread of learning?

10,000 gazans and 80,000 indians killed. these numbers compared to todays population would be 3.5 million. rapacious my left foot genocidal.

By the same idiotic reckoning the 6 million Jews of the 2nd WW would amount to 150 million, with ...inflation that is!!

Have you always been this stupid?

has the world population gone up by 2500 percent since ww2. get your medication checked old man those blue tablets you are taking are not for your dementia and are making your brain turn to mush.

talking of mush

mush mush mush.
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Re: May29,1453 Constantinople DEN KSEXNO !!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 30, 2015 2:11 pm

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Lordo wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:There is a popular but inaccurate narrative that presents Alexander the Great as a rapacious conqueror. But the contextual facts of the time suggest there was a need to secure Greece from attacks and build a buffer of allies and not enemies around Greece so that invasions were less likely. Stability was the game. That was why Alexander turned East - that was were the enemy at the time (and now ?) was to be found. No major enemies in the West, then...

Indeed, Greeks had in fact turned West also and did much good as far as Britain, France and Italy were concerned - seeing much from early Greek explorations.

How much worse the enemies from the East would have been today without Alexander's early spread of learning?

10,000 gazans and 80,000 indians killed. these numbers compared to todays population would be 3.5 million. rapacious my left foot genocidal.

By the same idiotic reckoning the 6 million Jews of the 2nd WW would amount to 150 million, with ...inflation that is!!

Have you always been this stupid?

has the world population gone up by 2500 percent since ww2. get your medication checked old man those blue tablets you are taking are not for your dementia and are making your brain turn to mush.

talking of mush

mush mush mush.


Hey, mush-mush, have you found that holiday video evidence of Alexander and his mates killing all those people 2,500 years ago? His selfie next to a beheaded woman would support your claims nicely? No?

And never mind inflating figures to index-link to today's population (since there were no body- counters keeping such records back 2,500 years ago) - have you done the sums for the recent genocided bodies that we do have numbers for? Those 2 Million Greeks and Armenians Turkey killed during its birth as a terrorist nation only 100 years ago?

Hmm .... I make that 30 Million Greeks and Armenians genocided by Turkey in little over a few months ...
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