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[Mustiejodu]

Lordo don't waste your time trying to enlighten the truth to brain washed characters like Nokit or what ever her name is or b26 . Just ask them what they think would have happened if there was no intervention from Turkey or invasion as they would put it? I would like to know firstly with Sampson during 1974 with his wisdom what would have happened to the tcs ? Let's put the tcs to the side . The question is what would have been the outcome between the warring factions within the gc s ?

5000 GCs would not have been killed and 180000 will be in their homes.

That's what would have happened.

I won't argue with that but at what expense to TC lives ? That was the objective point I was making based on the events that are documented that were taking place. I am not for war or taking life especially if it's innocent life however I understand that GC s were at war amongst each other and were killing each other so have you taken that calculation into account ? I don't know the figures but it would be interesting to know how many innocent lives they took of their compatriots and how many would they have continued to take ? I don't support any invasion or this separation but I TRUELY believe at the time it was necessary for some type of intervention but not one that meant overstaying the welcome and not necessarily from Turkey. If you TRUELY believe that TCs at the time were not under any danger or threat or there were no masacre of TC villages then how can we move forward. I accept that Turkey should not have invaded . I accept Turkey did some pretty awful things to GC s but at no point did TCs inflict mass ethnic cleansing of GCS. I am thinking what would have continued to happen to TCs if Turkey did not interrupt ? That was the angle I was coming from of my what if question ? I was not around during the problems but my parents were and they suffered but I am now the new generation and let's move on but let's not ignore each other's losses because by accepting each other's losses we show empathy for each other and it will help build a strong future with no doubts.

[Lordo]

here is a bit of background on makarios's character. what kind of a person was he. this is a revelation.

Makarios had been a novice monk at the Kykkos monastery. Novices are not obliged to grow a beard and Makarios was in the habit of shaving. The Father Superior, Chrysostomos, kept pressing young Makarios to grow a beard, but the novice refused.

“Father Superior: You will either obey or leave.
Makarios: Very well, then I will leave. (I had gathered my things together because I knew exactly what would happen).
FS: Don’t go! Stay.
M: Very well, I will stay.
FS: But will you grow a beard?
M: No, I will not.
FS: I will beat you if you don’t obey.
M: Strike then. (He then began to strike me, and while hitting me he yelled:)
FS: Will you grow a beard?
M: No!
FS: Will you now?
M: No!
Finally, the Father Superior had to collapse into a chair, exhausted.
FS: I entreat you. Just let your beard grow a little. Very little, just enough to show people I didn’t yield.
M: No!
FS: Very little, just enough for people to ask if you are growing a beard.
M: (At that point, I smiled) As little as that?
FS: Yes, not a centimetre more.
M: Very well.”

Makarios, as he said to Fallaci, did not have the least intention of leaving the Monastery. “I always enjoyed driving myself to the brink of the abyss, and then stopping just in time not to fall”, he said. “The other party, of course, believes that I am about to fall and kill myself. On the contrary, I proceed very calmly, knowing when to put on the brakes.”

[Mustiejodu]

Lordo you manage to come across like a Kalamaras sometimes. All opinion and no facts. Is this a Lurujina trait?

I did not know that Lordo is from lurugina . Come to think of it yes there is a family nicknamed LORDOS . Lordo are you from lurugina ? If you are then sorry for any insults if I made any towards you as you could possibly be related to me lol

[Lordo]

Listen and learn chrluis and the rest of the ignorant contingent. especially kikapu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=69&v=1MRPMJgSmqE

[Lordo]

listen to the man who lost 30 members of his family. for peace he is willing to accept that the murderers may go unpunished.

and yet assholes here are blinded by revenge even if it destroys cyprus.

assholes the lot of you

[repulsewarrior]

thanks for the link, Lordo.

...calm yourself, eh? that's all i'm going to say.

[Nikitas]

Revenge? Repeatedly I said that the point in any settlement is to prevent a recurrence of 1963 or 1974.

My opinion that the TCs have legitimate security concerns has been criticised by GC forumers.

But any time GCs mention their security concerns TCs pour scorn on them, and you are in the lead doing that.

You refuse to see a TC superiority complex, evident in the demand for double the per capita share in territory, over representation in power sharing, the dismissal of the non GC communities of the island as irrelevant, the sense of entitlement that makes it OK to claim RoC pensions etc but give nothing even remotely similar in return, and the list goes on.

That is not how you build a partnership.

[Lordo]

we dont need help from you on forming partnerships dear nikitas. first behave civilised and the rest will fall in place, but not while assholes lurk freely amongst you with police unable to touch them.