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[Paphitis]

I am reminded of Nazi Germany gradually taking over more and more of Europe and imposing its brutal rule there. By the time the world decided to do something, the bloodiest war in human history lasting six years was needed to bring it to an end.

Ramadi is now surrounded by ISF.

The liberation of Ramadi is expected to occur in the coming days according to an ISF General.

The ISF seem upbeat about its success. Coalition Troops are also within an hours drive of Ramadi which will now be under siege and cut off from all supply lines.

It doesn’t make encouraging reading, though, does it?

Kurdish commanders say Islamic State extremists were able to capture Ramadi a week ago because elite U.S.-trained Iraqi soldiers abandoned their posts 48 hours before the jihadis launched their final assault on the western Iraqi city. Their retreat left Iraqi units remaining in Ramadi and defending the strategic city dangerously exposed.

http://www.voanews.com/content/iraqi-sp ... 88806.html

I see how they threw the elite US Trained bit in for good measure.

If they are elite, are they former Republican Guard perhaps. US or Australian traning does not automatically make one an elite crack storm trooper first of all. To be ELITE (SAS, Ranger or Seal) it takes years of training (training never stops) and you need to get through the training regime where most washout.

The US and Australia would have only had time to train a few thousand so far. And mostly, it will be sausage factory stuff similar to CNG Boot Camp and Basic Training. It would occur pretty quickly, perhaps over 3 short months. It hardly qualifies you as an elite SAS.

If these troops were elite, then maybe they were Republican Guard. Which means they deliberately abandoned their positions and were not defeated. They just did not engage.

I think we need to come to terms with the fact that it's going to take a minimum of 2 years before the US and Australia are able to reconstruct the Iraqi Security Forces. great success has already been achieved and credit must go to the ISF for that, but it will be a while before they are a credible fighting force. We have committed that we will be by their side for as long as it takes. This is what the Iraqi government want and we will help them.

If they gave us the OK, we could just send in our troops and smash ISIL in no time, but to maintain security across all of IRAQ, the country will once again be under our occupation until the ISF are in a position to take over.

[Paphitis]

you keep goin on about australia stop it otherwise i will collapse from laughter you wallaby dingo kangoroos coudn't poke your eyes out if you tried when it comes to america everything they do encourages young muslims to rebel the amercians are the best recruiting agents for muslim fanatics the trouble is they are cluless the brits did the same thing they thought they could rough up a few irish men and stop the ira instead they increased the ira numbers and finance more people joind and people gave more money to them this is no different the yanks are doing the same thing even if they put their army in there they will not be able to defeat the muslim fanatics becasue they are not a conventional army they are a rag tag highly motivated fighters who are not afraid to die the usual scaremongering dont work here they aint afraid see,

It has deployed its own troops (only 2 countries have) and it is a major stakeholder in training the ISF. This is an integral part of our strategy in delivering ISIl the ultimate defeat over the longer term.

Once that is done, we fully intend on supplying the Iraq with all the weapons it needs to maintain security across the full breadth of its borders.

don't kid yourself about ISIL coming back because already they are starting to fumble and we haven't even started yet. They lost Tikrit, and they will lose Ramadi very soon. Bit by bit.

One things for sure, our aircraft and troops are there long term. We will never leave until ISIL are finished! Full stop!

And make no mistake. we will finish them. Already they want to go back home because they see the writing on the wall. They are not welcome back either.

[Paphitis]

From the same article as above:

Professor Gareth Stansfield, an analyst at RUSI, a British defense think tank, says the Shi'ite militia deployment to Ramadi risks sparking all-out sectarian war between Iraqi Sunnis and Shi'ites, a development IS has sought to engineer. “For ISIL this is exactly what they want to see happen. They don't want to see an Iraqi military force deployed to ostensibly protect all Iraqis. They want to see Shi'ite militia forces deployed," says Stansfield.

Maybe, but from what I hear, there are Australian and US Troops on the outskirts with their ISF allies. I don't know what role they are playing there, but it's doubtful that Australian and US Troops could be in close contact with Iran backed Shiite Militias.

[Paphitis]

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has left open the possibility of sending more troops to Iraq, after the US defence secretary accused local forces of lacking the will to fight the Islamic State (IS) group.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-25/i ... es/6495740

Well, I’ll sing Waltzing Matilda to that.

they have already deployed to Ramadi as we speak. There are also some SAS Troops in the area, but I am not sure if they have deployed them to Ramadi. Would be interesting.

They are talking about deploying troops to Syria as well.

Abbott has been a lot more decisive than America. In fact, I believe the entire coalition should come under Australian Command.

The UK has been largely disappointing. The Canadians and French have been fantastic on the other hand.

[Lordo]

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has left open the possibility of sending more troops to Iraq, after the US defence secretary accused local forces of lacking the will to fight the Islamic State (IS) group.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-25/i ... es/6495740

Well, I’ll sing Waltzing Matilda to that.

they have already deployed to Ramadi as we speak. There are also some SAS Troops in the area, but I am not sure if they have deployed them to Ramadi. Would be interesting.

They are talking about deploying troops to Syria as well.

Abbott has been a lot more decisive than America. In fact, I believe the entire coalition should come under Australian Command.

The UK has been largely disappointing. The Canadians and French have been fantastic on the other hand.

interesting indeed how many children killed here makes it interesting you stupid dingo.

[Paphitis]

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has left open the possibility of sending more troops to Iraq, after the US defence secretary accused local forces of lacking the will to fight the Islamic State (IS) group.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-25/i ... es/6495740

Well, I’ll sing Waltzing Matilda to that.

they have already deployed to Ramadi as we speak. There are also some SAS Troops in the area, but I am not sure if they have deployed them to Ramadi. Would be interesting.

They are talking about deploying troops to Syria as well.

Abbott has been a lot more decisive than America. In fact, I believe the entire coalition should come under Australian Command.

The UK has been largely disappointing. The Canadians and French have been fantastic on the other hand.

interesting indeed how many children killed here makes it interesting you stupid dingo.

What the hell are you talking about?

Since when has the coalition been killing children. Firstly, our troops are reportedly spectators on the sidelines, just providing technical assistance and training.

Our aircraft are precise to within mere feet and we ensure that we take out those we are suppose to take out, not children.

We have respect for children, Sunni and Shiite. We don't kill them.

ISIL on the other hand are genocidal. Thousands of Shiites, Kurds, Christians young and old and wiped off the face. Where is your compassion.

We won't tolerate it. We are there and we will destroy ISIL. Just accept it.

They will never form their Caliphate. ISIL will be wiped off the face.

Go and watch a few YouTubes of ISIL mass beheadings, captives digging their own graves and shot in the head, Airmen being burned alive, Christians, Turkmen and Kurds running for their lives, crucifixions, and other executions and have some respect.

[Tim Drayton]

On 5 August 2014, Al Jazeera reported that an ISIL offensive in the Sinjar area of northern Iraq had caused 30,000–50,000 Yazidis to flee into the Sinjar Mountains fearing they would be killed by ISIL. They had been threatened with death if they refused conversion to Islam. A UN representative said that "a humanitarian tragedy is unfolding in Sinjar". More than 12 Yazidi children died of hunger, dehydratation, and heat on Jabar Sinjar (= Sinjar Mountains) on 3 August, and two more children and some elderly or people with disabilities, died of the same causes on the following day. By 5 August, the number of Yazidi children who had died of hunger and dehydratation on Jabal Sinjar reached 40; according to reports from survivors. By 6 August 200 children had died from thirst, starvation, and heat while fleeing to Jabal Sinjar On 3 August, ten Yazidi families fleeing from the al-Qahtaniya area were attacked by ISIL, which killed the men and abducted women and children; 70 to 90 Yazidi men were shot by ISIL members in Qiniyeh village, and 450–500 abducted Yazidi women and girls were taken to Tal Afar; hundreds more to Si Basha Khidri and then Ba’aj. On 4 August, ISIL fighters attacked Jabal Sinjar, killed 30 Yazidi men and abducted a number of women; 60 more Yazidi men were killed in the village of Hardan, and their wives and daughters were abducted; other Yazidi women were abducted in other villages in the area. On the same day, Yazidi community leaders stated that at least 200 Yazidis had been killed in Sinjar (see Sinjar massacre), and 60–70 near Ramadi Jabal. On 6 August, ISIL kidnapped 400 Yazidi women in Sinjar to sell them as sex slaves. According to reports from surviving Yazidi, between 3 and 6 August, more than 50 Yazidi were killed near Dhola village, 100 in Khana Sor village, 250–300 in Hardan area, more than 200 on the road between Adnaniya and Jazeera, dozens near al-Shimal village, and on the road from Matu village to Jabal Sinjar; about 500 Yazidi women and children were abducted from Ba’aj, and more than 200 from Tal Banat. On 10 August 2014, ISIL militants buried alive an undefined number of Yazidi women and children in an attack that killed 500 people, in what has been described as genocide in northern Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutio ... is_by_ISIL

[miltiades]

" Go and watch a few YouTubes of ISIL mass beheadings, captives digging their own graves and shot in the head, Airmen being burned alive, Christians, Turkmen and Kurds running for their lives, crucifixions, and other executions and have some respect."

The forums fucking idiot supports these fucking savages, he shares their beliefs and their sick and perverted ideology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7lQK5M4woQ

[Lordo]

i was going to say yanks belong to america but they do not even belong there. they killed 36 million native people to live there. all murderers go home. and take their supporters with them

[Tim Drayton]

Islamic State selling, crucifying, burying children alive in Iraq: UN

http://tribune.com.pk/story/833306/isla ... n-iraq-un/