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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 27, 2015 1:08 am

Lordo wrote:sooner or later iraq will split three ways and so will syria. the kurds will unite to a single zone if terggy allows it and bob is your uncle. in any case who created iraw. furquin ted heath when he was in the foreign ministry. did they ask the iraqis what they wanted.

you arsholes will never learn. leave the people alone and go back to your little mandra. everyone will be happier.


The only State that will eventuate out of all this is Kurdistan! We are eyeing the eastern Provinces of Turkey for it too.
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Lordo » Wed May 27, 2015 1:12 am

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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Garavnoss » Wed May 27, 2015 1:19 am

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:Whilst everyone is throwing their hands up in horror at the prospect of seeing the relics of the past destroyed, it might be a good idea to reflect upon the fact that these great works of [so called] ART are in fact representative of the great sufferings imposed upon the poor bastards who were forced to build them at the behest of those that ruled over them.

Slave labour was commonplace in the glory days of early civilisation and most of those who built these mighty monuments to their imposed cultures [and harsh rulers] were obliged to devote their entire lives engaged in their construction.

The END PRODUCT of their efforts [Today's Society] is testament to the fact that the idea of glorifying earthly deity's did not produce a fair and sustainable standard of existence for the populations of whichever culture followed the same ARTISTIC route, nor did the example it was supposed to set, prove to be a sound one for, had it done so, WE would not be in the predicament we are now in.

The destruction of these monuments [and relics] is seen as a great loss to WE who live in our comfortable cocoons and may consider ourselves privileged in that we may visit them in order to admire the cultures [long gone] which produced them, however, to a member of IS, they epitomise everything that is wrong with today's society and the destruction of the humble homes of those who are now engaged in battles for survival midst the turmoil they are forced to live in, is a far greater loss to THEM, for they seek only to create THEIR society and [in the process] bring about the total destruction of those reminders of the past which weigh upon us ALL to these current days ....Civilisation [as WE view it].

Good luck to IS, they are doing no less than the US is doing [destruction of a humble home is as great an evil as the destruction of an ancient monument] it's just that they are on the other side of the same coin, it's a coin that is spinning in the air at the moment and when it comes to rest on the ground, we may ALL be a little wiser than our ancestors.

In the eyes of the Almighty, the humble HOME is of greater value than the palatial one, perhaps WE may soon come to realise it.

Insha Allah.


Oh isn't that brilliant.

maybe we should also destroy the Pyramids.


Not such a bad idea, when one considers the fate of those that built them.

Perhaps IS will oblige if they give the matter some consideration and clear the scum out of the Middle Eastern regions.
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 27, 2015 1:23 am

Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:Whilst everyone is throwing their hands up in horror at the prospect of seeing the relics of the past destroyed, it might be a good idea to reflect upon the fact that these great works of [so called] ART are in fact representative of the great sufferings imposed upon the poor bastards who were forced to build them at the behest of those that ruled over them.

Slave labour was commonplace in the glory days of early civilisation and most of those who built these mighty monuments to their imposed cultures [and harsh rulers] were obliged to devote their entire lives engaged in their construction.

The END PRODUCT of their efforts [Today's Society] is testament to the fact that the idea of glorifying earthly deity's did not produce a fair and sustainable standard of existence for the populations of whichever culture followed the same ARTISTIC route, nor did the example it was supposed to set, prove to be a sound one for, had it done so, WE would not be in the predicament we are now in.

The destruction of these monuments [and relics] is seen as a great loss to WE who live in our comfortable cocoons and may consider ourselves privileged in that we may visit them in order to admire the cultures [long gone] which produced them, however, to a member of IS, they epitomise everything that is wrong with today's society and the destruction of the humble homes of those who are now engaged in battles for survival midst the turmoil they are forced to live in, is a far greater loss to THEM, for they seek only to create THEIR society and [in the process] bring about the total destruction of those reminders of the past which weigh upon us ALL to these current days ....Civilisation [as WE view it].

Good luck to IS, they are doing no less than the US is doing [destruction of a humble home is as great an evil as the destruction of an ancient monument] it's just that they are on the other side of the same coin, it's a coin that is spinning in the air at the moment and when it comes to rest on the ground, we may ALL be a little wiser than our ancestors.

In the eyes of the Almighty, the humble HOME is of greater value than the palatial one, perhaps WE may soon come to realise it.

Insha Allah.


Oh isn't that brilliant.

maybe we should also destroy the Pyramids.


Not such a bad idea, when one considers the fate of those that built them.

Perhaps IS will oblige if they give the matter some consideration and clear the scum out of the Middle Eastern regions.


Why stop there. maybe many of Greece's and Cyprus' relics should be destroyed too because they may have been built by slaves.

IS will pay with blood, don't you worry about that. They should be suiciding by now knowing what is in store, but they won't get their 72 virgins.
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Garavnoss » Wed May 27, 2015 1:40 am

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:Whilst everyone is throwing their hands up in horror at the prospect of seeing the relics of the past destroyed, it might be a good idea to reflect upon the fact that these great works of [so called] ART are in fact representative of the great sufferings imposed upon the poor bastards who were forced to build them at the behest of those that ruled over them.

Slave labour was commonplace in the glory days of early civilisation and most of those who built these mighty monuments to their imposed cultures [and harsh rulers] were obliged to devote their entire lives engaged in their construction.

The END PRODUCT of their efforts [Today's Society] is testament to the fact that the idea of glorifying earthly deity's did not produce a fair and sustainable standard of existence for the populations of whichever culture followed the same ARTISTIC route, nor did the example it was supposed to set, prove to be a sound one for, had it done so, WE would not be in the predicament we are now in.

The destruction of these monuments [and relics] is seen as a great loss to WE who live in our comfortable cocoons and may consider ourselves privileged in that we may visit them in order to admire the cultures [long gone] which produced them, however, to a member of IS, they epitomise everything that is wrong with today's society and the destruction of the humble homes of those who are now engaged in battles for survival midst the turmoil they are forced to live in, is a far greater loss to THEM, for they seek only to create THEIR society and [in the process] bring about the total destruction of those reminders of the past which weigh upon us ALL to these current days ....Civilisation [as WE view it].

Good luck to IS, they are doing no less than the US is doing [destruction of a humble home is as great an evil as the destruction of an ancient monument] it's just that they are on the other side of the same coin, it's a coin that is spinning in the air at the moment and when it comes to rest on the ground, we may ALL be a little wiser than our ancestors.

In the eyes of the Almighty, the humble HOME is of greater value than the palatial one, perhaps WE may soon come to realise it.

Insha Allah.


Oh isn't that brilliant.

maybe we should also destroy the Pyramids.


Not such a bad idea, when one considers the fate of those that built them.

Perhaps IS will oblige if they give the matter some consideration and clear the scum out of the Middle Eastern regions.


Why stop there. maybe many of Greece's and Cyprus' relics should be destroyed too because they may have been built by slaves.

IS will pay with blood, don't you worry about that. They should be suiciding by now knowing what is in store, but they won't get their 72 virgins.


Give 'em a chance mate, they've only just established the "Caliphate", once they have extended their borders anything is possible, we may even see the black flag fluttering over the Sydney Bridge.

[The 72 Virgins will have to be imported though, hard to find in the Antipodes I reckon]. :lol:
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 27, 2015 1:44 am

Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:Whilst everyone is throwing their hands up in horror at the prospect of seeing the relics of the past destroyed, it might be a good idea to reflect upon the fact that these great works of [so called] ART are in fact representative of the great sufferings imposed upon the poor bastards who were forced to build them at the behest of those that ruled over them.

Slave labour was commonplace in the glory days of early civilisation and most of those who built these mighty monuments to their imposed cultures [and harsh rulers] were obliged to devote their entire lives engaged in their construction.

The END PRODUCT of their efforts [Today's Society] is testament to the fact that the idea of glorifying earthly deity's did not produce a fair and sustainable standard of existence for the populations of whichever culture followed the same ARTISTIC route, nor did the example it was supposed to set, prove to be a sound one for, had it done so, WE would not be in the predicament we are now in.

The destruction of these monuments [and relics] is seen as a great loss to WE who live in our comfortable cocoons and may consider ourselves privileged in that we may visit them in order to admire the cultures [long gone] which produced them, however, to a member of IS, they epitomise everything that is wrong with today's society and the destruction of the humble homes of those who are now engaged in battles for survival midst the turmoil they are forced to live in, is a far greater loss to THEM, for they seek only to create THEIR society and [in the process] bring about the total destruction of those reminders of the past which weigh upon us ALL to these current days ....Civilisation [as WE view it].

Good luck to IS, they are doing no less than the US is doing [destruction of a humble home is as great an evil as the destruction of an ancient monument] it's just that they are on the other side of the same coin, it's a coin that is spinning in the air at the moment and when it comes to rest on the ground, we may ALL be a little wiser than our ancestors.

In the eyes of the Almighty, the humble HOME is of greater value than the palatial one, perhaps WE may soon come to realise it.

Insha Allah.


Oh isn't that brilliant.

maybe we should also destroy the Pyramids.


Not such a bad idea, when one considers the fate of those that built them.

Perhaps IS will oblige if they give the matter some consideration and clear the scum out of the Middle Eastern regions.


Why stop there. maybe many of Greece's and Cyprus' relics should be destroyed too because they may have been built by slaves.

IS will pay with blood, don't you worry about that. They should be suiciding by now knowing what is in store, but they won't get their 72 virgins.


Give 'em a chance mate, they've only just established the "Caliphate", once they have extended their borders anything is possible, we may even see the black flag fluttering over the Sydney Bridge.

[The 72 Virgins will have to be imported though, hard to find in the Antipodes I reckon]. :lol:


They have established jack shit, and will lose everything. it's inevitable.

Yes our women are a liberated and free bunch. We don't like to wrap them in curtains either. We live by the motto: less is best or nothing at all. :lol:

I would presume that 72 virgins would be hard to find in Cyprus too.
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Garavnoss » Wed May 27, 2015 2:19 am

[quote="Paphitis"]

They have established jack shit, and will lose everything. it's inevitable.

Yes our women are a liberated and free bunch. We don't like to wrap them in curtains either. We live by the motto: less is best or nothing at all. :lol:

I would presume that 72 virgins would be hard to find in Cyprus too.[quote/]



You're having a laugh mate, most of the women have moustaches !. :lol: "Good night".
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 27, 2015 2:27 am

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You're having a laugh mate, most of the women have moustaches !. :lol: "Good night".


Some have a rather nice Airstrip thing going! 8)

Helps you know where to land! :lol:

Goodnight, and stop pretending you support ISIL. You lose all your credibility by holding onto irrational feelings about the US especially when you need to stoop so low and support an evil like this to prevail.

You need to remember that this is not about the USA. The world has mobilised and will not allow ISIL to win.
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 27, 2015 4:45 am

Garavnoss wrote:Whilst everyone is throwing their hands up in horror at the prospect of seeing the relics of the past destroyed, it might be a good idea to reflect upon the fact that these great works of [so called] ART are in fact representative of the great sufferings imposed upon the poor bastards who were forced to build them at the behest of those that ruled over them.

Slave labour was commonplace in the glory days of early civilisation and most of those who built these mighty monuments to their imposed cultures [and harsh rulers] were obliged to devote their entire lives engaged in their construction.

The END PRODUCT of their efforts [Today's Society] is testament to the fact that the idea of glorifying earthly deity's did not produce a fair and sustainable standard of existence for the populations of whichever culture followed the same ARTISTIC route, nor did the example it was supposed to set, prove to be a sound one for, had it done so, WE would not be in the predicament we are now in.

The destruction of these monuments [and relics] is seen as a great loss to WE who live in our comfortable cocoons and may consider ourselves privileged in that we may visit them in order to admire the cultures [long gone] which produced them, however, to a member of IS, they epitomise everything that is wrong with today's society and the destruction of the humble homes of those who are now engaged in battles for survival midst the turmoil they are forced to live in, is a far greater loss to THEM, for they seek only to create THEIR society and [in the process] bring about the total destruction of those reminders of the past which weigh upon us ALL to these current days ....Civilisation [as WE view it].

Good luck to IS, they are doing no less than the US is doing [destruction of a humble home is as great an evil as the destruction of an ancient monument] it's just that they are on the other side of the same coin, it's a coin that is spinning in the air at the moment and when it comes to rest on the ground, we may ALL be a little wiser than our ancestors.

In the eyes of the Almighty, the humble HOME is of greater value than the palatial one, perhaps WE may soon come to realise it.

Insha Allah.


Surely this is an argument for maintaining these monuments and relics for future generations so that people can remember the slaves who were forced to build them. If you are opposed to slave labour, I trust you are aware that DAESH practices slavery and has even put Yazidi children on sale in market places with price tags on them.
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Re: The cradle of civilisation ... and now?

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 27, 2015 7:47 am

There are also reports of a powerful counteroffensive being staged by the Syrian armed forces to recapture Palmyra from the cutthroat thugs of DAESH. There is also a report of 26 people being arrested in Turkey for attempting to illegally cross into Syria. Looks like the Islamofascist clique that has virtually created a one party state in Turkey is coming under strong international pressure to stop the flow, even though they would love to help their Islamofascist brethren in DAESH. Or maybe that was just cosmetic and they are continuing to let the majority of the brainwashed zealots wishing to join the death cult in its heinous crimes against humanity flow unhindered.
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