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Re: R A C I S M

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue May 19, 2015 3:16 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:thats a few thousand years ago not a decade or two ago....

You probably just hate the evolved Cyprus because you’re living in the past where your memory is stuck. :lol:



the point Melan was making is that these people brought in to do the dirty work are treated like slaves and worse. my point is that not too long ago
Cypriots were doing the same laborious sweaty jobs as these people are today. Where does the Cypriot get off looking down on these people and treating them like leeches? Is that really evolved or dis evolved?.....
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby miltiades » Tue May 19, 2015 8:10 am

Racism has existed just as long as man has. It has evolved over millions of years, it is inherent in the vast majority of humans. Progress has made huge strides in combating racism but will never totaly eradicate this human behaviour.

I consider myself non racist, proof of this was my marriage to another race, the English race, and of late to a Belarus race.

Im however a confirmed and a firm believer in " culturalism" so this undoudedely makes me a " culturalist" in other words I do expressly make distinctions between primitive cultures and western world cultures.
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue May 19, 2015 8:18 am

Melan wrote:We can all admit that Cyprus is a racist place.


If you've travelled a little, I think you'd find you can insert the name of any place instead of Cyprus and it would be equally true.


Cypriots are racists and what is more they also fall in the other category called WHITE SUPREMACY.


By whose definition? Most white supremacists see Cypriots as 'Colonial Others'. A little study into the British Empire might enlighten you on this point. :wink:


I admit, I hear Turkey and darken inside, I see their flag and feel 'That is the enemy', did not yet get over that. I am brainwashed indeed.


That's not racism. It stems from the psychological need to survive. It is fear and it's as natural as fear of snakes for what they can do ... not for what they are.

Overall, I'd say these views appear slightly hypocritical, but that's normal too. :)

- It's good you've opened up this topic for further scrutiny.
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue May 19, 2015 8:41 am

miltiades wrote:I consider myself non racist, proof of this was my marriage to another race, the English race, and of late to a Belarus race.


But you married "up". Would you have married "down"?
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby miltiades » Tue May 19, 2015 9:13 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
miltiades wrote:I consider myself non racist, proof of this was my marriage to another race, the English race, and of late to a Belarus race.


But you married "up". Would you have married "down"?

Only to you ...baby !!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby Lordo » Tue May 19, 2015 9:14 am

humans are not born with racism, it is nurtured into us first by our parents and then by our educations system. i was lucky my parents were not racist at all. our education is the same on either side of the border. it breeds hatred and racism. having said that tc teachers are far less dogmatic and racist then their tc counterparts. we must try to see through the mist of cypriot condition. recognising your condition is half the solution. you are on the way for being cured from this curse.

this man has. you can too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZOHnT97VE
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby kurupetos » Tue May 19, 2015 10:08 am

Lordo wrote:humans are not born with racism, it is nurtured into us first by our parents and then by our educations system. i was lucky my parents were not racist at all. our education is the same on either side of the border. it breeds hatred and racism. having said that tc teachers are far less dogmatic and racist then their tc counterparts. we must try to see through the mist of cypriot condition. recognising your condition is half the solution. you are on the way for being cured from this curse.

this man has. you can too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZOHnT97VE

WTF? :shock: :? :lol: Silly kuz...
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby kurupetos » Tue May 19, 2015 10:11 am

Oceanside50 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:thats a few thousand years ago not a decade or two ago....

You probably just hate the evolved Cyprus because you’re living in the past where your memory is stuck. :lol:



the point Melan was making is that these people brought in to do the dirty work are treated like slaves and worse. my point is that not too long ago
Cypriots were doing the same laborious sweaty jobs as these people are today. Where does the Cypriot get off looking down on these people and treating them like leeches? Is that really evolved or dis evolved?.....

I think she's just a naive, brainwashed AKEL supporter. :roll:
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby tsukoui » Tue May 19, 2015 11:10 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Cypriots are racists and what is more they also fall in the other category called WHITE SUPREMACY.


By whose definition? Most white supremacists see Cypriots as 'Colonial Others'. A little study into the British Empire might enlighten you on this point. :wink:



This is the fundamental point that needs to be addressed if we are to talk about the "racism" of Cypriots. Cypriots are not "White", but many Cypriots wish they were. They aspire to be part of "White Supremacy" and seek to distance themselves from their non-"Whiteness". In many ways this is natural, after all who wants to be seen as inferior by the hegemonic powers. But it is a false hope. The "White Supremacists" have no desire to admit Cyprus into their club. They use Cyprus in a subtle way as a buffer. In fact this is what they do with the Middle East in general, although less subtly with the likes of Syria or Iraq. Cypriots' "racism" must be understood in this context as a desire to distance themselves from their colonial subjugation. The first step to dealing with the problem is to embrace the reality that we as Cypriots are non-"White", then we can have a realistic discussion about how we engage with the rest of the world.
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Re: R A C I S M

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 19, 2015 12:29 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Overall, I'd say these views appear slightly hypocritical, but that's normal too. :)

I'd remove the "slightly" part... :lol: but I wouldn't want to discourage the young lass from participating.
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