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[Get Real!]

Turkish Energy scholar alarmed by regional energy developments…

In the course of the last 10 years, southern Cyprus has signed three agreements on exclusive economic zones (EEZ) with three of its neighbors: Israel, Egypt and Lebanon. What did we do? We did almost nothing. There is no doubt that unless there is stability in the region, these energy resources will not be exploited. Syria is at war, and there is contention between Turkey and Israel and contention between southern Cyprus and northern Cyprus.

If that is the case, so long as Turkey is not in the equation, the cooperation between Israel, Egypt, southern Cyprus and Greece will not be taken too seriously.

But let’s not forget that southern Cyprus has been active on the issue. It has created a win-win situation by involving eight or nine countries. It has signed agreements with three countries; by inviting Total, it brings France into the picture, with ENI, Italy, and with Nobel, the U.S. Southern Cyprus is in an alliance with seven or eight countries. What are the countries that we are allied to? Zero.

Perhaps Turkey is counting on the fact that not much can take place in the end without Turkey being included in the picture.

Perhaps. Or perhaps these are not issues we focus on. We give priority to Syria and to the contention with Israel. I don’t think we have developed an energy-focused policy. Yet the hottest geopolitical areas in terms of energy happen to be on our borders.
The fact that the leaders of southern Cyprus, Greece and Egypt met [last week] is proof that we have lost our influence in the region. Greek Cypriots have got the Israelis and Egyptians on their side, while we are in a hostile relationship with Egypt, Israel and Syria.

I guess you are alluding to precious loneliness.

This precious loneliness works against us on energy issues. We want to be an energy hub, but we can’t become an energy hub when we have hostile relations with everybody. We need to be on talking terms and in friendships with all; in fact, energy can be a tool to strengthen the friendship.

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[Lordo]

Turkish Energy scholar alarmed by regional energy developmen

did you run out of steam by the time you got to the t. the article is right.

[Get Real!]

Turkish Energy scholar alarmed by regional energy developmen

did you run out of steam by the time you got to the t. the article is right.

Something like that! The forum software only handles a certain length for titles...

[repulsewarrior]

...Cyprus can be an alternative, an honest Broker, a Hub. Quite a bit of oil and gas can be gathered for transit here, to Turkey, and to the rest of the world essentially, because of its geographic position. Indeed, Cyprus is the last country that Turkey lost, and the first that she must make friends with. Recognition is not far off with a slice of this pie for the "but one", without which it won't be long for that breath of fresh air, Free Trade, from the benefactors of this Goodwill, to sour. Turkey must change herself, "this" way is not the way, they are a powerful force as a movement for Europe too, and the USA, if they choose to.

[Nikitas]

The Americans are dead against Russian gas going to Europe via Turkey. US State Department energy specialist Amos Hochstein is in Athens right now pushing Greece not to sign on to the Turkish Stream project.

On the other hand, Turkey states that Turkish Stream will be operational by the end of 2016.

Presumably becoming a hub involves Cypriot, and Isreali, gas going up via Turkey and being pumped through (mixed with Russian gas) Turkish Stream into Europe.

So how is it all going to happen when the Americans are dead against it? They forced the cancellation of South Stream a few years ago. They can to the same again. Will Cyprus produce enough to support a project like Turkish Stream with no Russian gas transfers?

Having western companies like ENI, Total, Noble, involved in the extraction is probably a wiser choice than getting mixed up with Turkish plans for hubs etc. And it is obvious from the map that the nearest and most practical final clients are Egypt and Jordan, not Europe.

The situation is a little confusing, but it looks like in the end the sheer numbers of nations whose interests coincide and are contrary to Turkey's will prevail. On one side are Turkey and Russia and on the other Cyprus, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, France, Italy, USA. Greece is fence sitting right now so I do not count them in.

[Lordo]

and how are these arab countries pay you with sand?

[Nikitas]

They will pay the same way they pay for Turkish imports. Turkey boasts about its growing exports to the Arab countries.They are OK when they buy Turkish but not when they buy from anyone else?

[Lordo]

interesting that you do not even flinch an eye when you say the yanks are controling greece regarding the pipe line but you believe that tcs will controlled by terggy and tcs cannot be allowed to run their lives under bbf because of your belief that terggy will control them.

i have never seen a worst hypocrite anywhere in the world. this is the cyprus prolem. the hypocritacl gcs.
not all mind you
there is an odd good one
here and there
somewhere
well hidden
up tight
out of sight
perhaps it is time
to raise your head
above the parapet
of hippocracy
say your piece
and then go back to bed
sweet dreams my friend.

[Nikitas]

Your point is what? That I report what the press says, in Greece and elsewere, about the pipeline project? The USA is also controlling Turkey in this, if control is the right word. They apply pressure, via other open and ongoing business like trade or technology transfers, or they may give inducements. They did it in the case of the South Stream pipeline, pushing Bulgaria and Greece. Now they are pushing Greece and Turkey.

According to press reports this Hochstein fellow mentioned liquid natural gas plants that can be built with US help. If you cross reference that with the increasing number of LNG carriers that Greek shipowners are running, and the record low gas prices in the USA, it makes interesting reading.

How on earth does all this fit in with the absolute, visible and direct control of the TCs via the presence of 40 000 soldiers, the operation of several "military areas", an air base in Lefkoniko, and direct control of the police force?

You rely too much on abuse and insults, even when there is no cause for it. You got Turets or something?

[Lordo]

you seemed to miss my point completely my friend. i am challenging you and your atitude. you and the likes of you harp on about how tcs cannot resist pressure from terggy and yet you make no judgment about america doing the same to greaks and terggs. nothing more nothing less. you and likes of you is the problem.