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Re: akinci speech

Postby bill cobbett » Sat May 02, 2015 10:35 pm

Lordo wrote:i am told by a very trusted friend that his grandfather originates from akincilar hence his name. now then lets take what he says one by one shall we.

are you saying that he is wrong in what he said regarding international agreements and how they have to be honoured and one side cannot just say i no longer agree with what i have signed. do you agree or disagree reh charlomahismenuimmu.

lets take the second one regarding who was party to it. are you saying the roc that signed that agreement is the same roc of today. yes or no.


:lol: Oh Gawd... :lol:

:lol: Please Cousin Ennasegremasso, p...pl... :lol: please don't mention ... :lol: ... Turkey and ... :lol: honouring agreements in the same sentence ... :lol:
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Re: akinci speech

Postby Lordo » Sat May 02, 2015 10:49 pm

foirst you have to learn to poke your eyes. let me know wen you perfected that.
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Re: akinci speech

Postby humanist » Sat May 02, 2015 11:19 pm

Not a bad speech, undertone of turkey's interest came through very clearly. We can only wait and see hope and pray
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Re: akinci speech

Postby Lordo » Sun May 03, 2015 1:11 pm

humanist wrote:Not a bad speech, undertone of turkey's interest came through very clearly. We can only wait and see hope and pray
which ones were terggys interests
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Re: akinci speech

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun May 03, 2015 2:10 pm

So much fuss that this ape speaks!
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Re: akinci speech

Postby Lordo » Sun May 03, 2015 2:12 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:So much fuss that this ape speaks!

who has left the lunatic asylum door open again. fess up you swine.
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Re: akinci speech

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 03, 2015 2:14 pm

Lordo wrote:i am told by a very trusted friend that his grandfather originates from akincilar hence his name. now then lets take what he says one by one shall we.

are you saying that he is wrong in what he said regarding international agreements and how they have to be honoured and one side cannot just say i no longer agree with what i have signed. do you agree or disagree reh charlomahismenuimmu.

lets take the second one regarding who was party to it. are you saying the roc that signed that agreement is the same roc of today. yes or no.


I will go through them all for you:

GUARANTEES are the result of international treaties and cannot be terminated with a unilateral statement, newly elected Turkish Cypriot leader Mustafa Akinci has told the Turkish paper Star.


Since its birth in 1960, the independence and constitutional order of the Republic of Cyprus has been guaranteed by Greece, Turkey, and the United Kingdom, under the Treaty of Guarantee.


Even though Greece and the UK are not interested in the slightest!

“There is Turkey, Greece, Great Britain, South Cyprus [the internationally recognised Republic of Cyprus], and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus [the breakaway regime in the Turkish-occupied areas],” he said.
“Therefore, one side saying guarantees should be ended cannot end guarantors’ rights. Greece saying that unilaterally is of no consequence.”


But he had some disapproving comments in store for the Cypriot government, especially with regard to its willingness to share power in post-solution Cyprus.


In reference to this week’s tripartite summit between Egypt, Greece, and Cyprus, as well as the ‘Nicosia Accord’, Akinci said the initiative is “indicative of the Greek-Cypriot mindset, that they are the only sovereign power”.


Yeh well Turkey wants to dissolve this. We know very well what is in store for us in the future.

“The Greek Cypriot side operates under the assumption that it is the only sovereign country and the sole protector of citizens’ rights,” he said.


It's not an assumption. IT IS FACT!

“I believe this is wrong. Natural gas is wealth belonging jointly to both communities. And I believe that this resource can fund the solution. It is wrong for it to be turned into a point of friction, even before it is unearthed.”


No solution, no gas for the TCs exempt the methane gas from Akincis Golo!

“The Greek Cypriot side, arguing that ‘I am the state, the entire world recognises me as the state’ has been extremely tight on the issue of sharing power,” Akinci said.


Well duh! Why would the GCs sign away their Statehood? :lol:

“If they accept that on this island they are politically equal with us, then we will have overcome the most important obstacle. Agreement on all other issues will become easier.”


Yes one man one vote EQUAL. Is this what he has in mind?

Akinci also had some criticism with the confidence-building measures unilaterally announced by President Nicos Anastasiades earlier this week, saying they are not enough.


He got that one right!

It ain't enough for us to recognize you for the return of a derelict city under UN control. :lol:

“It is noted that maps to minefields on the Pentadaktylos mountains will be handed over. And yet, this is an issue that concerns public safety and should have been announced much earlier.”


He can stick the maps up his bumhole!

“I don’t wish to react negatively, but much more needs to be done, like lifting the embargo [against Turkish Cypriots],” he concluded.


Why? For recognition? I don't think so.
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Re: akinci speech

Postby Lordo » Sun May 03, 2015 2:38 pm

you are an ass you have always been an ass and you will an ass.

internationa agreement cannot be withdrawn unless all parties wish it to be withdrawn. what grease or englezzos wish to do has nothing to do with it. get it into your thick scull you idiot.

where did he say one man one vote you stipid boy. bbf is what you got and thats it

varosa was given to you with no strings attached and you were stupid enough to refuse it.

de-mining has been going on for decades. nice of him to give us the maps after 40 years you asshole

as to recognotion - it is bbf nobody said recognition.

equal power is one side not dominating the other. the upper house will be equal and the lower houses will run the their state without interference from the other.

now shove that where the sun does not shine you stupid excuse for a human being.
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Re: akinci speech

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 03, 2015 3:31 pm

Lordo wrote:you are an ass you have always been an ass and you will an ass.

internationa agreement cannot be withdrawn unless all parties wish it to be withdrawn. what grease or englezzos wish to do has nothing to do with it. get it into your thick scull you idiot.

where did he say one man one vote you stipid boy. bbf is what you got and thats it

varosa was given to you with no strings attached and you were stupid enough to refuse it.

de-mining has been going on for decades. nice of him to give us the maps after 40 years you asshole

as to recognotion - it is bbf nobody said recognition.

equal power is one side not dominating the other. the upper house will be equal and the lower houses will run the their state without interference from the other.

now shove that where the sun does not shine you stupid excuse for a human being.


Really?

Right now we don't have any Treaty of Guarantee. We have 100% control of the RoC and the citizens within the legally controlled areas are equal to all others just like is the case in most other Western Democracies.

If there is to be a new BBF then everything starts with a clean slate otherwise we don't agree to go to a vote even and even if we did, it won't wash with the voters.

You guys are in the jam I'm afraid. All this nonsense to try and force our hand as the loser of the war will just result in status quo.
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Re: akinci speech

Postby Lordo » Sun May 03, 2015 3:42 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:you are an ass you have always been an ass and you will an ass.

internationa agreement cannot be withdrawn unless all parties wish it to be withdrawn. what grease or englezzos wish to do has nothing to do with it. get it into your thick scull you idiot.

where did he say one man one vote you stipid boy. bbf is what you got and thats it

varosa was given to you with no strings attached and you were stupid enough to refuse it.

de-mining has been going on for decades. nice of him to give us the maps after 40 years you asshole

as to recognotion - it is bbf nobody said recognition.

equal power is one side not dominating the other. the upper house will be equal and the lower houses will run the their state without interference from the other.

now shove that where the sun does not shine you stupid excuse for a human being.


Really?

Right now we don't have any Treaty of Guarantee. We have 100% control of the RoC and the citizens within the legally controlled areas are equal to all others just like is the case in most other Western Democracies.

If there is to be a new BBF then everything starts with a clean slate otherwise we don't agree to go to a vote even and even if we did, it won't wash with the voters.

You guys are in the jam I'm afraid. All this nonsense to try and force our hand as the loser of the war will just result in status quo.

if you dont have it why is greace saying they dont want to guarantee cyprus any more. can your ears hear what your mouth says.

in the last few years the non-solutionists made the same argument saying tcs will never vote for bbf again. guess what the tcs not only want bbf they voted akinci. a man your mr nasty would find very difficult to fob off. eroglu made it easy for him. its all over for you and the rest of the fanatics. the gcs will vote for bbf dont you worry about that.
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